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Curiouscpl91 - Identifying lifestylers - We've found that the best way to ID other swingers is to walk up and grab them by the crotch. It's a known fact that people who swap spouses have a crotch temperature almost 10 degrees higher than the average person. Your chances of correctly identifying a lifestyler by a black ring on the right hand is about the same as it is identifying a "hotwife" because she's wearing an ankle bracelet. Both are mostly urban legends. Trust me, people have been trying almost since day one to figure out a way to find other swingers out and about in the real world. Some have used the yin and yang symbol, some have used an apple with a bite taken out of it. The cold hard truth is that most swingers really don't want vanillas to know they're swingers and thus, wouldn't wear something that would easily "out" them in public as swingers. Don't you think, in this day of instantaneous communication and social media that if there was any kind of universally recognized symbol for swingers that it wouldn't soon become knowledge in the vanilla world? If you really want others to know you're a swinger just wear a t-shirt that spells it out. (Not trying to harsh your buzz MATTANDLIZ.) [img]http://i3.cpcache.com/product/437336974/swingers_tshirt.jpg?width=350&height=350&Filters=%5B%7B%22name%22%3A%22crop%22%2C%22value%22%3A%7B%22x%22%3A58.3%2C%22y%22%3A0%2C%22w%22%3A233.3%2C%22h%22%3A280.0%7D%2C%22sequence%22%3A1%7D%2C%7B%22name%22%3A%22background%22%2C%22value%22%3A%22F2F2F2%22%2C%22sequence%22%3A2%7D%5D[/img]

ok questions for you laytonites....or anyone... - most people know my part time job... - I'm really curious too. I have run into people at parties that I knew outside the lifestyle, and ran into people in the real world that we recognized from the site. I would like to know if any research has been done as too how many couples in Utah are swingers (or a member count for this site that diversifies states) and what percentage of couples are swingers (I'm guessing it has to be higher than people generally think because of my experiences. Perhaps 20%). Anybody hear of any documented research that answers either question.

Looking to establish a group of safe swingers - - We love too. We are clean and drug free.

Dating other Couples - Have you done it? - Been there, done that, have the t-shirt. We know plenty of people who've done it, and done it successfully (up to a point), ourselves included. We don't know of many, if any, where it has lasted for more than a few years and didn't end somewhat badly. It CAN be quite heady and has the potential to take swinging to the next level. Unfortunately, it is also exponentially more likely to crank up the drama factor to eleven (out of ten). Quite often each couple has their own "agenda" (for lack of a better term) that is often at odds with the other couple's agenda. We've seen it frequently cause weird jealousies not only between primary partners but also between non-primary partners and in a few extreme notable cases it has ended marriages. In our case, we were relatively long-term swingers at that point who, although never really super active in the scene, felt like we'd checked off most of the things on our swinging bucket list and were somewhat curious if there was more out there to explore in swingerdom...or if we were sort of done with the scene. The couple we started "dating" wasn't really the kind of couple we usually were attracted to and maybe that was part of the allure. They also had a very interesting (to say the least) dynamic in their marriage that really was at odds with that in our relationship. Ultimately they kept pushing boundaries (started throwing the "L" word around and much more), pushed for more and more separate activities and were insidious in slowly and subtly causing rifts, both large and small, as well as a LOT of drama. We actually didn't even realize how much drama and subterfuge had occurred until we were finally out of the situation entirely. We actually miss them a little, at times, and often wonder if there might have been a way to talk things out and come to a better understanding of how to continue on in a healthier way but they've actually gone on to do exactly the same thing to a number of other couples we know (it's a small world in Utah swinging and word gets around) and it seems to be their pattern. Tldr; It can work. It's quite rare when it works long term. It has the potential for disaster. While it's appealing in many ways we don't really recommend it. YMMV

Bashing - Isn't it sad !!! - [quote=CPLINTOOELE]Well Psyche not the point I was making here I can take a good joke and fun play .. I was just saying why even respond to something if you are not interested in it ?? and your only purpose is to down the persons with the idea or question.. yes fun I understand but rude ass comments I don't ... [/quote]Do you have a recent example, CPLINTOOELE? Otherwise I guess ya may have missed MY point, which is usually the most important one. [em]Emo_17[/em] Your last post, the one that people seemed to be jumping on, was a booty call posted in the forum. There are 35 Booty Calls (in my area) right now. Can you imagine if all those people just kept re-posting their booty calls every day in the FORUM area? Nothing would be on the front page of the forum except for booty calls. How 'bout if the party groups, "Perfect" or "Swingers Circle" always posted their party announcements on the FORUM instead of in the Events section where they belong? Same difference, there'd be no Fun discussions left on the forum, only Event announcements (and booty calls). There's an organization to this place and if you use it where possible it just makes it easier and more enjoyable for other folks trying to navigate the site. Apparently you've used the Forum repeatedly for what is essentially a booty call and a few folks have gotten annoyed. It's understandable, I hope. And, If you REALLY want to advertise your desire to get laid during the daytime, just get in your bikini and stand on the corner of 25th and Wall in Ogden with a cardboard sign dangling from your neck that says, "Cheap Floozy for rent, 25 cents." Seems to work for me!! [em]Emo_54[/em]

Looking to establish a group of safe swingers - - Sounds great would be interested

Where are the Midwest Swingers? - - Seriously. I'm a recent college grad, and my guy is still in school, so we can't go traipsing off around the country to meet people. Where are the swingers from Ohio, Indiana, western PA, south Michigan, etc? No offense to the people on our friends list, but I'm tired of getting all excited to see that we have a new message only to find it's a friend request from someone in freaking Utah. I mean, seriously. Literally everyone I know who graduated from college in 2009 is working a dead end job somewhere. None of us has a career, so even if we were willing to spend the money to travel cross-country for casual sex, we don't have it to spend. I've visited some other swinging sites, and on many of them, there were lots of ....well, profiles, at least, from Ohio. We've met several couples from one of the sites, even though we haven't swung with them. WTF?

Swingers of Color - - Just a quick comment on this..we have found that to be the same in Toronto(we have NY on our profile)but live just outside Toronto..most clubs we visit are 95% white. xoxox Jodi

Another way to identify swingers - Totally hot T-Shirts - Salesman make a commission. I just thought they were cute. Sorry if I offended anyone else.

OUCH - Anyone caught swinging bu family or friends? - Ran into Ms. Evil's cousin a few years ago. Were invited to an annual bbq non-swing party by a couple who WERE swingers but they said even though all vanilla sometimes the party could got quite steamy. Hung out, drank a lot and flirted with all the cute vanillas and our hosts. Suddenly (while naked in the hottub) I saw Ms. Evil's cousin walk in. I quickly alerted her and tried to dress her quickly and sneak her around the side of the house but she was just drunk enough to think it would be hilarious to say hi to her cousin. Turns out the cousin was a FWB of the hosts since high school and frequently joined them for sex. Of course the host instantly wanted to play kissing cousins with Ms. Evil and her cousin but she had sobered up enough by then to not want to go there. Still see the cousin every so often and though nothing was ever mentioned we all know...LOL