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Here's something Ive been curious about - - Congrats on 10 years in the lifestyle, SLOW. We're old timers as well and have been doing this off and on since shortly after we got married. Over 25 years now! So I guess I can sort of see both points of view and contrary to the current rather negative societal attitude towards political correctness I have no trouble being firmly on the side of being kind to people and not labeling or belittling anyone regarding their participation in the lifestyle. Having said that, however, I can also see the viewpoint of some couples since when we first started swinging there really were no singles (or at least so few that we never met any) actively participating in the lifestyle. A few years later we met a few singles who would, say, hire a hooker to gain access to parties and events or sometimes convince a friend to act as sort of a swinging "beard" if you will, again to gain entry to swinging events. This was all pre-internet so connecting was considerably more difficult than it is now. To say that the internet changed swinging (for better or worse) is a HUGE understatement. I was talking to a guy (formerly single but now in a couple) recently about his experiences as both a SM and a couple in the lifestyle. His attitude had actually changed dramatically. It reminded me of former smokers who now are militantly anti-smoking. His argument (now that he's no longer single) was to take the couples and the singles and put them on separate websites and what do you have? He said you have a swingers site and a hookup site. I told him that there are some couples who actually seek out singles over other couples but he wasn't easily dissuaded. One final point he made that I thought perhaps was a valid point...he said when he first started out as a SM in swinging he thought that all or most of the married guys who enjoyed seeing their wives getting fucked were basically cuckolds or at very least not real men. He said it took him many years and a lot of different experiences to lose that mindset. He also said that now that he's part of a couple who is frequently contacted by single guys he sees that attitude (because he recognizes it from when he had it) far more often than not. He stated that he would guess that the VAST majority of those single guys who don't "get it", the bad apples if you will, the ones who ruin it for the few good guys have that attitude and mindset. He said that's why there will probably always be somewhat of a schism between singles and couples. Whew, that was a long fucking post. Hope it made sense. No more herb before posting, Mr. Evil! LOL
Young swingers party - sold out, who still wants to party ? - I should probably add that if you didn't get tickets and you'd still like to attend, let me know and I can put you on the waitlist in case someone else cancels... (which, given how many people there are coming, is likely that a few spots will open up).
Sorry for the thread-hijack Looking4Fun.... Back to the topic! Who wants to hang out with M&T? They're HOT! (Can vouch!)
Hey all you "totally secure couples" - Just in case you got it wrong you have methods to recover your loss. - that was entertaining, but notice the host's conception of swingers. anyways... "I'll sue your ass!"
A party in Naples - anyone interested - Well we would LOVE to since Naples is our home town of 20 years!!! Unfortunately we won't be visiting then and we are moving to NC in 2 weeks! Anyone wanna welcome some Utah swingers to the great state of NC???
D and B
P.S. Beard...one day, yes we will meet :-)
Hello summer - Swingers couple party - Why don't single females have to abide by those same rules? Seems discriminatory doesn't it?
Why so much hate in the swingers world... - - Probably the same as the ration between a nice married male and arrogant married male. LOL!
-D-
What are swingers really looking for ?Are they looking for frien - Has the happen to you. - mmmmmm yeah it could be cool. point do i really care i say what I want ill run on and on and on dont like it dont read it
Swingers - Looking for colorado swingers - Check kinkster.org it's a Colorado based swingers site such as swingular is to Utah
How did you start the lifestyle? - - I was invited to be in a couple of amateur porn movies back in the 80's. It was after the first gang-bang scene that the cameraman gave me an issue of a swingers magazine. Did the whole thing with the PO box and snailmail. Which wasnt easy, even if you live and worked close to home. I was driving over the road, so meeting other swingers was almost impossible. Eventually the internet came along and sites like SDC, Fantasyswingers and Swingular made contacting people so much easier.
Swingers gone bad?? - - Just a thought here...
Compare this to another post about women being drugged at parties...
In both situations you are giving another human being a substance to reduce or remove any ability to say no to unwanted sexual advances.
Rape is rape no matter if it is an adult/adult rape or adult/child rape. And if someone is too drunk/high/drugged to consent and the person continues, it's rape.
To those thinking it's kind of cool, wrong. For an adult who is by their age, in a position of power to abuse that power and sexually assault another is not cool.
It's illegal, it's immoral and it's flat out disgusting.
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