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Only In Utah - - I'm thinking their next series might be called "Mormon Virgins and Swingers". [em]Emo_67[/em]

Looking to establish a group of safe swingers - - [quote=Whiskey_Girl]I think there are enough interested couples we should count off to form teams. If not the group will be so big there won’t be any control over safe sex[/quote] That’s why want to chose the ones we think would be the best fit. So it is controlled. 😁

Swingers in a vanilla bar... - - IF they say no, say neither have I, but have heard good things. If they say yes, explain how much you enjoy it because of _______________. Saying hello and how are you doing tonight opens the door to discussion, however, if the goal is to ascertain lifestyle participation or not, it won't accomplish that.

YOLO Cruise April 26 2009 - swingers cruise - We are a Jax couple....we already added you on our friends list but we would love to chat with others from the Jax area! Pete and Ashley

Just looking for other couples happy with super soft and no swap - There must be more of us out there? - [quote=SEXYMOOSE]TaterTot, Interesting, but recently at a party ( invited via this site) a single female we know was extremely frustrated that she busted her ass to set up daycare for the night, go to a party and have it be 10pm and nobody was playing. She told us that soft swappers wreck the parties, and bring down the energy. She claimed they love to mingle and dance but they promote an atmosphere of physical (contact) insecurity that everyone has to deal with. Her view was very firm that it's a swing party for swinging, and until the soft-swappers get shocked or drama themselves home, nothing happens till 3am. Not sure if that is totally the case, and it may be really a result of posers ( "social engineered" want to be's). However, we don't see that out of state nearly as much as in the salty city, regardless of full or softies in the mix. [/quote] And this is why I am terrified of house parties. I don't want to be pressured into performing. Sometimes peoples thing is to JUST WATCH. While I would resent someone trying to force me into participating, I would never suggest that fucking at a swingers party is inappropriate either. Some people are exhibitionists and some aren't. And after all the drama about drunk/pushy hosts, rude guests, couple fights, and so forth I have heard about recently, I'm not convinced I'm missing anything.

How far are you willing to travel ? - - We've had kisses blown to us and I will generally answer with a note but have, as yet, not received our first answer. Most are quite far away and their profile, like yours says that you would like to be friends and hang out with as well as..... (Not exactly what you said but that's what I got out of your profile) If people are like us, we would travel up to 1 to 1.5 hours to meet or to play because that, to us, is a reasonable distance to have a friendship. If we were to meet someone at one of the clubs that we belong to, and became friends we might travel farther/further. If one believes that to travel a greater distance than would be practicle for friendship then that distance would set the limit. On the other hand, if a couple is out strictly for the sexual encounter and has no expectation or wish for friendship then maybe a stop over in a city on the other side of the country might not be out of the question... If someone sends a kiss and the couple respond it would be nice if that couple would acknowledge receipt of a note. Just common courtesy. On another site we have been invited, by a number of folks, to stop by if we ever get in the area for drinks, dinner, play what have you,,,simply because we participate in forums and we may send a note about their profile or their pictures or both... So ultimately it depends on the couples involved.. If someone were to cum here for a week or more and wish to meet and see what happens then that might be an acceptable situation. Or if we were to go to their area for MORE than a day or a few hours,,(Not just passing thru) then maybe we'd want to meet and see what might happen... We are not notchers or hardcord swingers...attraction is part of the equation with us...So distance is part of the equation virtually always. Ray

Info for Noobs - - [quote=DISCREETCPL]Sameroom, We are new to LS and are still a work in progress with profile, pics, communication, and the decision to get out and meet new peeps. Thank you very much for posting the info and tips. One thing that makes us comfortable is when others post reviews about others that we are looking up. It would be great for the Swingular LS community to expose those flakes and creepsters for who they are in advance for the noobs. It would be great to contact someone like yourself to "pricecheck" a couple, or person before waisting everyone's time. Or even worst, having a night filled of drama. We are a UT County couple and would love to weed out the bullshit way before we step out to play. Maybe we can create a never ending thread and list all the good experience couples and or singles as to help those noobs in search of a safe and drama free situation????????????? If a couple or single doesn't make the list then, we can assume no one has spent time with yet or there were some other reason. Let me know what you think???[/quote] The only problem is that in swinging no matter how much you vet a person or couple there is always, unfortunately, the potential for drama...or worse. When you mix potent emotions with often late hours and a little alcohol, even a normally cool, rational, fun person can turn into swingerzilla. I like the concept of your idea but putting it into practice would be, imho, hit and miss at best. We knew a couple a number of years ago that were REALLY cool, fun people...very mellow. One night before a party they got into an argument over some silly thing and carried that negative energy with them to the party. The alcohol started flowing and the guy had a couple of drinks too many and flipped out (these were seasoned swingers btw, not noobs) when his wife started kissing and groping another guy at the party.

Are swingers moral? - Who determines what morals are? - [quote=CRAZYFOXTCU]From certain perspectives yes that's what I'm saying. Religion twists things but from the view of an Islamic extremest what those terrorists did on that plane was the pinnacle of a moral example. From our point of view it was horrid and sick. We are in the out group to these terrorists and religion has warped their view so that they think they need to defend the ideals of their in group. Understanding that they believe they are doing good things doesn't excuse them from the bad things they do. Like how the Pope isn't innocent for using his influence to stop people from using condoms in countries riddled with AIDS and parent less children. He believes he is doing right but is inexcusable.[/quote] I am afraid I have to agree. I think morality is a moving object and simply a point of view. It does not take religion or lack of it to make you moral because morality is a self designation and has no absolutes. If we pass laws to protect morality based on an absolute definition of morality, then we are climbing out on a limb and cutting it off behind us. I think hellokity defined the goal when she said

An out of this world (or state) encounter - swinging parties - I love you ABC Women you described utah parties very well. You are AWESOME!!! We have had soooo much fun and we are non drama people. However most parties have one or two that make it not as fun but you chose to respond how you want. Looks do not matter as much to us. We just like having a good time. That is what I hope everyone is trying to do. We enjoy all the parties soooo far keep them coming!!! goooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo swingers!!!!

Why so much hate in the swingers world... - - Well said Mr. X -D-