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Girls that are into DP - How common is this activity among the swingers? - Just my 2 cents...I've found it's actually easier to take the bigger...member, in the back door. That's the only way it will all fit (in me). :~)

Looking to establish a group of safe swingers - - Interested as well

Have you noticed? - Admin. doesn't give a SHIT!!! - [quote=EVILDOERS]Hmmm, yeah I think everyone has noticed but I'm not really sure that it makes all that much difference at this point. Swingsites are slowly dying and will, in the not too distant future, cease to exist...at least in the form that they're in now. The swingsite that was basically the model for Swingular (And ADMIN got kicked off of when he started Swingular.-LOL) is more or less a ghost town at this point. We're lifetime members of both and the other one used to have a HUGE, vibrant, swinger community that was pretty much nationwide and now there are just a handful of people who actively participate in the forums and other features on the webpage. Swingular won't be too far behind (What is Utah, like 5 or 10 years behind the rest of the country? LOL) and even Kasidie will eventually succumb to the pressure of other types of media and even easier ways to connect with others. Additionally, many younger "swingers" are simply bypassing swinging altogether and just hooking up with other people without giving it a label or having any kind of formal community. *shrug* In the meantime, Swingular has become more and more just a venue for people to peddle their services and/or place redundant "classified ads" seeking what they've already stated they're seeking in their profiles. LOL [/quote] Evil your wit and sarcasm never cease to amaze...and I mean that in a good way. You should start a thread on your predictions for swinging in the future. I am sure it will be amusing as well as insightful.

Looking to establish a group of safe swingers - - I like to join the group I been off for alittle bit , is time to jump back in see Familiar faces :)

Vegas Club Party - Local Vegas Swingers club party - Here is the website we just signed up the other day on it http://newtemptations.com Just thought be good to share for those who want to attend this weekend or in the future.

Just in case it mysteriously disappears - - A cut and paste from another forum "Posted By: GOODSKICOUPLE Posted on: Oct 24, 2007 - 5:16 pm Update for the Swingular Membership: Excuse the long post. Good Evening Swingers, NTAKTAGF legal counsel has informed us today that no communication has been heard from Swingular management by 1400 EST, Wednesday, Oct 24, 2007. Sadly, the speech of a few Swingular members (and some suspected computer shenanigans), as well as the support of that speech by Swingular management has changed Swingular forever. The innocuous place on the internet that Swingular has enjoyed since its inception is now altered. The authorities are being notified. If the legal action by the State of Florida materializes, it will have to be documented in every annual report that the parent company files. These reports are public documents available to anyone that desires to examine them. This will likely hinder the ability of Swingular to obtain capital, since such jeopardy must be disclosed. It remains to be seen if the possibility of investigation by the Florida Secretary of State, the Florida U.S. Attorney, or the Internet Task Group will affect the numbers of current members that wish to remain or the inflow of new subscribers. Today VanCott, Bagley, Cornwall and McCarthy began the process to officially request assistance from the Florida Secretary of State. This will take a little time. The gears of large institutions turn slowly . To give the members an idea how serious this matter is, VBCM will encourage the Florida General Counsel to pierce the corporate veil. If successful, the executive officers of the company will be held PERSONALY liable for the conduct of the members that decided it would be good business to take the company on its present course. It will be dark times if this occurs. In a sense, without the knowledge of the membership or maybe even management, the ship has been pointed toward the rocks by a mere handful of people. If you are curious about these things, VBCM confidently predicted that no communication would be heard from Swingular management. They simply waited, sharpening their tools until they could be used. While we believe this matter can still be resolved, we are positive that some of it is now irrevocable. How much further it goes, is now up to the general membership and the management. We encourage management to give VBCM a call. 2 hours ago preliminary official correspondence departed Utah via overnight courier to Lynn Hearn, Florida Secretary of State, Chief General Counsel. "

The definition of cheating - - Interesting discussion. Certainly from a relationship standpoint the classic definition of cheating is being with someone other than your partner physically and/or emotionally. As swingers, however, we often hold ourselves above others and fall back on the lying and/or sneaking around aspect. Personally I feel that being dishonest with the person you hold most dear in this life to be the essence of cheating for me. When information is withheld you take away that person's prerogative to choose whether or not to stay in the relationship with you based on your actions outside of the relationship. There are a million ways people rationalize cheating. I find that a person's attitude towards cheating is a very good litmus test for the depth of their character. Now should we talk about cheating on a test or cheating other people out of their hard earned money? How about cheating on your taxes or at a poker game with friends? At what point DOES cheating become morally reprehensible or should it be "all's fair in love and war" and "every man (or woman) for himself"? Or as SIRNEWBY asserts, is self deception/lying/cheating really the only valid metric? Or did I misunderstand your point, SN? It would be interesting to get feedback from people (I'm sure there are plenty) who've been cheated on.

How often do you think this happens - - In HIS opinion, it is a lot to do with the fact that MANY single men are WAY to agressive...Our experience has been that we have met 2 single men that were ACTUALLY swingers, the rest were simply looking for an easy piece of ass...Boy were they mistaken... Sure, there is some insecurity, but that seems to be less than I initially thought...After reading many of Don's opinions on single men, I think that a lot of others are of the same thought...ALso...there is a lot of the men saying, "If she gets some, I get some" we have actually heard men say that before...We have also had men storm off because there wife was wanted and they were not....but thats a whole other ball of wax.... The topic at hand, they were NOT totally honest with each other...He IS insecure...if he admits to a little insecurity, he is VERY insecure...think about it T4, you're a man, would you tell on yourself on television? HELL NO...No man would...Unless there was HUGE sums of money involved....

Didn't Meet Expectation - newbies - As children we are taught a set of rules to live by. I was not taught and I doubt that most of us were not taught to be swingers. In fact I would guess that most of us were taught that such activities were wrong and immoral and that imprinting does not change easily. We may logically decide to break societies

We're going to SEMA! - Gonna be in Las Vegas for the weekend. Sexy swingers?? - We will aslo be in Las Vegas for the sema show from thursday to sunday