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Calling all losers! - LS and club scene - ...........................................I am bored on a Sunday, so going to waste a bit of time. :) I have said this before and I will mention it again here. Often times people are looking for a black and white answer, a "this" or "that" or they tend to pigeonhole themselves into a place that feels comfortable to them. It is great that people can search for and find people of similar interests. The original question was why is the Utah scene so closely related to the club scene. To me, that isn't necessarily the way things are and so I am responding to shed a different insight into the question. How big is the club scene in Utah? I don't feel it is that big. We have the Moose Lounge on Fridays on a regular basis, we used to have Habits and then we have the parties that happen once a month or less frequently, such as the Sinful parties. Give or take a few other club locations and attendees. The average attendance at the Moose Lounge is around 80 people every Friday. My guess is that this number is well under 10% of the swinging population in the area. Just estimating. This only happens once a week. If we only consider the weekend as play time (Friday and Saturday), which is also an inaccuracy since people do meet weekdays and Sunday as well, that means that only 5% of the population of swingers is actually attending the swinger club scene on the weekends. Certainly not a majority by any means. Sinful is definitely a club scene. And maybe we should define "club". I will say that is an environment where there is a DJ or another form of music, often times on the loud side as people like to dance, has a dance area for such activities, and typically doesn't open until 9 or so at night. Sinful probably hosts on average 150 people on average (S&A, don't get mad if this number is off,lol) and these happen maybe once a month. Lets just round this high and say that is 20% of the swinger population. However, many that attend the Moose and other clubs are the same that attend Sinful. Similar crowd and often an overlap. So still nowhere near a majority, or even a large percent. In fact, quite the opposite. This scene is well in the minority. So I am submitting that this really isn't and accurate assessment of the situation and based on more of a sense or feeling than actual fact. What this tells us then is that most of the people in the lifestyle are not meeting at clubs and are not necessarily dancing and staying up until all hours of the night but are finding other avenues where they meet. What other options are out there. Venus Game night, Kandy K, Sensual Massage... These venues are not club scenes, are a relaxed place and quiet enough to talk without "using hand signals". There still might be music and a dance floor, but there are certainly quite areas to talk, socialize and sometimes even fuck, if that is your scene. I would estimate that as many or more people attend these type of events and for most of these it is an older crowd who is more apt to be in bed at an earlier hour, though that is also an assumption and assumptions are obviously a poor way to derive information or determine a truth. I would question if any of the people in this forum have attending these more mellow parties and what they didn't like about that. The loud music is gone, it is a great way to meet many nice, non-pushy people with similar interests and since the crowd is a bit more mature (probably not the Venus parties) then there would be people of similar interests there. Now it may be of benefit of the party hosts to start earlier, say 6 or 7, so the activities can finish up earlier and I'm sure the hosts would entertain that if it was a common complaint. Apart from these types of parties and club scenes the only other way to meet people in a group setting are house parties, although keep in mind the Sinful hosts to things outside of the club but the crowd will usually still be the same people who attend the Sinful Club parties so are probably younger and okay with staying up late and partying, so probably not for the majority of people responding on this forum looking for an early-to-bed group. Let's talk about house parties. The ones we host sometimes have upwards of 60 or 70 people. These are people we have met before, for the most part, and we don't invite random people to these. We have an area to dance, music, but also areas that are quiet. The party starts around 7 and goes until... whenever. 6 am at times, but many leave before that. These aren't orgy parties and people don't show up expecting that. We also do game nights where we have 3-5 couples over for games, drinks, no dancing, hot tub, etc. Also people we know. We have been to many house parties as well and it is usually people we have met before. We are very leery of parties where there is some expectation to show up and fuck. We avoid these. Not our scene. But these house parties are out there. The doors close at 9, naked by 10, fucking by 1015. You are expected to fuck someone. Definitely not for us but definitely an okay and acceptable thing for others. Judgment is such an incredibly hypocritical thing in the lifestyle and I am astounded by how many people judge others. It is one thing to not enjoy a certain thing and to stay away from it, but it demean it, negate the validity of it and try to reduce the people who do it is completely asinine. My point is there is a variety, a full spectrum to every aspect of the lifestyle. From people looking only to make friends to people only looking to fuck. There is no right and wrong or black and white. We have so many good friends now that we feel super fortunate and blessed every day. But how did we meet those friends. Here is the key. Through hard work. Through dinner dates, clubs, social events, house parties and networking. Remember, this is my opinion, so please, readers, don't get offended. If you limit yourself to one avenue your success will be limited and you will have very few options in finding that fun couple that you click with. Many of our friends that we have met at a club typically like to be in bed at 10, or sometimes like to stay up late. Some of the people we have met in the most casual environment turn out to be crazy, fun party animals. I'm not saying if you don't attend the clubs you won't find what you are looking for especially since we have already determined that the club scene is so small. What I am saying is that if you are expecting a one-stop shop, or a fix-all, your success will be super limited. Your goal, I believe, is to meet as many people as possible and then sort through those you like and don't like until you are satisfied with your results. If you label the "club scene" as negative in your own mind, you might also be inadvertently labeling other fun activities and only reinforcing the confirmation bias you already have. Don't limit yourself to one way of finding friends, especially since it sounds like it isn't working that well for you now. We have found friends in every imaginable situation. Single dates, group dates, vacations, house parties and yes, clubs. I know our way works simply by the amount of amazing people that surround us and we call friends, and yes, some friends with benefits. Taking the time to start a topic is a good idea. The people on here all seem to have a similar interest and maybe some of you will take advantage of that, meet, and if things align, you make new friends. Maybe there is a need for a group to form that meets around 6 and finishes around 10 where only wine is served and only soft music is playing in the background. If so, take the initiative and form such a group. Create your own success. Maybe there needs to be a better way to post smaller events where only a few couples are going camping, coffee drinking, or similar. And maybe it is on Swingular and just not being utilized correctly. I'm sure with enough feedback the site could be fitted with such a feature. So don't despair. There are many, many people with similar interests and needs. You just have to find them. Each scene and venue has positives and negatives. Try to focus on the negative and utilize the resources that they are and you just might find your holy grail of FWB or what else it is you are looking for. Good job on the topic and hopefully that perfect couple is just around the corner. Mr. SRO...................................................................................................

Black Ring, Right Hand - How to tell if someone's a swinger - Don't underestimate the power of the internet and social media to disseminate information (especially information considered salacious by most of the world) VERY quickly. All it would take would be one pissed off swinger who didn't get laid or something to lash out by telling everyone the dirty little secret. [em]Emo_84[/em] And personally we don't find it very inhibiting to walk into a bar or a restaurant and not be able to tell immediately who is and isn't a swinger. It would be interesting to poll people and ask them if they would be likely to wear a black ring on their right hand in otherwise vanilla situations to be able to be identified by and to identify others as swingers. We'll start. We wouldn't do it. We enjoy the fact that our little hobby is known just to us and a few friends. It's our naughty little secret. We wouldn't advertise our vanilla sex life to friends and family so why would we want to do it as swingers? JOHO

single men - why is it we have such a hard time? - TO T 4REAL69, I REALLY LIKED WHAT U HAD TO SAY . I WISH MORE SINGLE GUYS WERE LIKE U . AND I LOOKED AT YOUR PICS AND PROFILE . AND DAMN U ARE HOT !!!!!!!!! I CAN UNDERSTAND THAT SOME PEOPLE ARENT LOOKING FOR SINGLE GUYS . BUT I ALSO DONT UNDERSTAND WHY PEOPLE MAKE SUCH A BAD JUDGEMENT CALL ON THEM JUST CAUSE THEY ARE SINGLE GUYS . WE GO TO ALOT OF PARTIES . AND YES THERE IS A FEW HERE AND THERE THAT ARE RUDE OR PUSHY . BUT I HAVESO MANY MORE PROBLEMS WITH THE MARRIED MEN . WE LOVE TO HANG OUT WITH FUN PEOPLE . SINGLE ,COUPLES , BLACK AND WHITE AND ANYTHING IN BETWEEN . WE LIKE TO GET TO KNOW PEOPLE AND PLAY WITH ONLY THE ONES THAT WE REALLY CLICK WITH .BUT WE LOVE MEETING NEW FRIENDS AND HANGING OUT AND HAVING FUN . TO US THE OPEN LIFE STYLE HAS MANY DIFFERENT LEVELS AND EVERYBODY SHOULD UNDERSTAND AND RESPECT THAT EVERYBODY IS LOOKING FOR SOMETHING DIFFEENT . SWINGING IS FOR OPEN MINDED PEOPLE THAT WANT TO SHARE AND EXPLORE TOG . MOST OF THE TIME SINGLE GUYS ACT LIKE ITS JUST A FAST PIECE OF ASS .OR THAT CAUSE THEY WENT TO A SWINGERS PARTY THAT THEY SHOULD HAVE HOOKED UP WITH A BUNCH OF PEOPLE . I HAVE NOTICED THAT ALOT OF SINGLE GUYS WORRY ABOUT HOOKING UP EVERYTIME THEY GO TO A PARTY . AND IT SHOWS THAT THEY ARE THERE FOR ONE THING . NOT ALL BUT ALOT . AND THAT ATTITUDE IS A HUGE TURN OFF . ALOT OF THIER PROFILES HAVE TONS OF PICS OF JUST THIER COCKS . EVEN IF IT IS A TOOL LIKE NO ONE ELSES. THAT DOESNT MEAN THAT WE NEED TO SEE IT IN A BUNCH OF PICS . I THINK IF SINGLE GUYS ACTED AND TALKED WITH RESPECT AND PUT A LITLE BIT MORE EFFORT INTO THIER PROFILE THEY WOULD HAVE A BETTER CHANCE . I TALK TO ALOT OF PEOPLE AND HANG OUT WITH ALOT OF PEOPLE . AND WE ARE ALWAYS LOOKING FOR NEW FRIENDS . SINGLE OR MARRIED COUPLE WE SHOW RESPECT AND WE DEMAND RESPECT . WE ARE NOT AT PARTIES JUST TO HOOK UP . WE ARE NOT ON SWINGING SITES JUST TO FIND NEW PLAY MATES . I CAN T STAND THE EMAILS THAT SAY . HI WHEN CAN WE MEET ? HI .. I CANT WAIT TO PLAY WITH U . ALL OF THAT SEX TALK BEFORE WE EVEN SAY HI AND KNOW WHO THEY ARE IS A HUGE TURN OFF . I DONT CARE WHO THEY ARE MARRIED OR SINGLE . THEY NEED TO SHOW RESPECT AND WAIT TO BE OFFERED AND INVITED TO PLAY . I DONT CARE IF THEY WANT TO TALK DIRTY BUT DAMN WAIT UNTIL I KNOW THEM SOME WHAT . ALOT OF SINGLE GUYS ACT LIKE THEY CAN JUST WALK UP INTO A PARTY AND ALL THE GIRLS SHOULD BE WANTING THEM . THATS NOT THE CASE . SWINGING IS ABOUT SHAREING AND EXPLORING . KINDA OF LIKE IN A LOVING WAY . AND ALOT OF PEOPLE HAVE A WAY OF MAKING IT SEEM SO CHEAP AND NASTY . BUT LIKE I SAID I HAVE MORE PROBLEMS WITH THE MARRIED MEN . I HAVE ALOT OF SINGLE GUY FRIENDS THAT I DONT PLLAY WITH AT ALL BUT THEY LOVE TO HANG OUT WITH US . AND LIKE ANYONE ELSE IF THEY CAN SHOW RESPECT AND NOT BEING PUSHY THEN THEY ARE MORE THEN WELCOME TO HANG OUT WITH US . I THINK EVERYBODY NEEDS TO REALIZE THAT NO MATTER WHO U ARE U ARENT GOING TO BE EVERYBODY TYPE . DONT WORRY ABOUT THE ONES THAT DONT WANT U . GO TO PARTIES AND WRITE IN CHATS AND GET TO KNOW PEOPLE .AND THEN GO WITH THE FLOW . DONT BE IN SUCH A RUSH . AND A TIP FOR SINGLE GUYS BUT A LITTLE THOUGHT INTO YOUR PROFILE AND PICS. I DONT WRITE ANYONE THAT HAS JUST PRIVATE SHOTS OR SIMPLE ONE LINERS IN THEIR PROFILE . WE ALREDY KNOW U WANT SEX . SO WRITE ALITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT YOU AND HELP PEOPLE SEE U FOR WHO U AE .AND THAT WILL GIVE U A BETTER CHANCE TO MEET FRIENDS AND THEN MAYBE MORE WITH THE RIGHT PEOPLE . NAUGHTY DREAMS FREAKY KITTY

Taking one for the team - Yay or nay - Here Here DARKNLADYJEDI Aka Barbi :p but yeah alot of swingers on here are becoming so picky about the physical they forget all about the sexual side. Its a fuck just like gettin drunk and pickin up a pratical stranger in a bar pratically.

More members out east!!! - - We do tell as many fellow swingers as we can obout swingular.. As for admin... They did contact us and we are very happy with their responce... Just goes to show you they are good peeps... We will be working "hard" to boost the east coast membership....

Is anybody on this site for fucking real or just a bunch of tease - - Seems like if you're not dtf on first meet it's a no go.. plus since we're more poly then swingers we get ignored. Mostly have had fakes and flakes from this site... plus trying to chat with a single female is also a joke.. Seems like girls want girls, couples want girls and the girls open to guys are wanting horse hung gym rats or sugar daddies... it sucks.

Poly-Swingers - Moving beyond FWB relationship - Ever seen Zebra Lounge? Give that movie a whirl!

We have heard about it many times........... - Couples that are swingers - Again, the intent of this post wasn't to obsess over this one bad time. It was to express our feelings and frustration. The advice everyone has shared with us is very helpful. We just want to avoid this kind of situation in the future. Realistically we do realize that we will come across this sort of thing again but atleast now we will be better prepared to deal with it. We will do things differently next time. Hopefully any simiular couples reading this will also choose not to contact us and the ones that are on our level will.