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Opening your marriage - How did the conversation come up? - It was pretty much a mutual idea. We both grew up in very strict religious (Yes, Mormon.) households. We took each other's virginity on our wedding night after a rather weird ceremony in the temple. Immediately we decided that we REALLY liked sex. We started discussing our fantasies and both wondering what we might have missed out on growing up and not being able to explore sexually like many of our less religious peers.
We also enjoyed reading and telling each other erotic stories in bed. One day a few years after we got married, while living back east, I wandered into an adult bookstore to grab the latest Penthouse Letters and a cheaply printed "magazine" of adult ads for swingers caught my eye. I bought it and took it home. We'd read, of course, about swinging in Penthouse Letters but had never really considered that people actually DID it. Not too long after that, after MUCH fantasizing, we found ourselves parked outside a small house party, chugging Bartles and Jaymes, and daring each other to go in. That was in 1989! [em]Emo_12[/em]
Another Swingers Show on TV - - It's nice to have an empty nest. We're planning on DVRing it.
Where on Earth are all the hot Virginia Swingers? - Show us what you have to offer VA!!! - I\'d have to agree with BEAUTYNBEAST. VA is very uptight-\"This town needs an enema!\" lol
Single Males - - [quote=EVILDOERS]
...get a girl to join you....Not only do you now "bring more to the table", but you have the added credibility that if you can find and finesse a girl into joining you in this little adventure we call swinging (whether it be a girlfriend, a wife, a second cousin twice removed, or just a hot fwb) you might just not be a giant douchecopter.[/quote]
Ignoring the need to "finesse" someone and unhealthy gender stereotypes in general, this line of reasoning is a little troubling as it presumes that a male's company is inherently worth less. Or that an absence of semi-romantic relationships somehow speaks poorly of his character. I personally think approaching someone whom you aren't already fairly close with and soliciting to go to a swingers party is a bit out of line. Especially if her company is sought as an accessory to demonstrate to others that he is not, as you say, “a douchecopterâ€. Call me old-fashioned.
[quote=EVILDOERS]
I know we can't be the only people who secretly wonder just a little bit about some single guys and why they aren't with somebody. Do they secretly hate women (yes, we've met some that actually do), are they just too lazy (or busy, maybe...but hey, we're all busy) to find someone, are they serial killers and/or just not very nice guys? [/quote]
Oh, I hope you are! That's a really unfortunate outlook to have. Promising relationships take time to find, let alone build to the requisite amount of trust and stability to try things like this. In the mean time, I don't see anything wrong with someone pursuing their interests while still holding out for someone worthy of their emotional investment. To me, that behavior is quite attractive should be respected! It doesn't get any better than someone who is confident, self-actualized, and motivated to pursue their desires. Sadly, it sounds their gender influences whether this is seen as a desirable trait.
I'm not sure how long you've been out of things (30 years?), but it's easy to forget the struggle when you're comfortable in a marriage. Things are more fluid. People don't feel the need to settle down like they used to.
[quote=EVILDOERS]I know many will say they've tried and swinging is a deal breaker for most women. After almost 3 decades in the swinging trenches meeting and talking to other people, both couples and singles, we would disagree....many, if not most, women could eventually come around to the idea of swinging once they feel safe and secure in a relationship.[/quote]
This is just confirmation bias if the evidence comes from a sample of people you have met while swinging.
[quote=EVILDOERS]...those of us who DID put in all the blood, sweat, and tears into a relationship and allow it to grow to the point of daring (don't think for a second we aren't risking a LOT in opening up our relationships to other people!) to allow others access to our significant other sometimes wonder why some others want to take a shortcut to all the sweet swinging bennies with little or no risk on their own part.[/quote]
If you're not comfortable sharing your wife with someone you might view as a potential competition, you definitely don't have to. On the other hand, there are a lot of people enjoy it :) This smacks of the old “you must suffer as I did†chestnut.
Looking to establish a group of safe swingers - - [quote=UTHOTCPLEXTREME][quote=TheSultansOfSwing]We would be interested. Safety is important to us. We're brand new to the LS and we want to proactively get vaccines and tests to show our safety if we can find other couples that can prove theirs[/quote]
Vaccines? For what? If you’re worried about Covid the vaccine will protect you. We don’t require Covid vaccines. So of that is a requirement, this would be the wrong group for you.[/quote]HPV vaccine is frequently recommended.
3 some!! - Just curious - So based on the fact that it's a swingers site.... Most of us to some degree. However the variations on the theme of m
Bryon - Text first - Old fashion wouldn't be on a swingers wedsite.
Question - do you talk about other swingers? - No, it is nobody's business but ours! I expect discretion on their part and practice it on my part. I might share a particular party or something funny that happened in general terms, but no names. I think about my own desire for "anonymity" in the non-swinging public and protect that of others.
Swingers in Draper cause Super Dell to speed - - LOL - Good One!
That explains everything!
We knew that there was a reason he was driving like such a maniac!
Very Funny
Thanks for the laugh!
Where do we get those concealed swinger permits?
And we are still trying to find the recuiting office!
lol
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kisses
RECOGNIZING OTHER SWINGERS - Outside of clubs & parties. - I have always just asked...
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