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A paradigm shift - polyamory - Your thoughts? Here are mine... - Hitting the topic of Poly.... I am poly my wife is not. We swing. I have a lady friend, spice if you will who is also married and her husband is not poly and they do not swing. We, all 4 of us are fast friends and both my wife and her husband have no problem with her's and my arrangement. THey also know that We swing. Now how did that person come into our life.. we met and became friends almost immediatly. I fell in love with her but am sill "IN love with my wife as well. I< we, like to become friends with people before we jump into the sack with them... BTW they both know that we swing. Could I fall in love with another woman, definitely.. Could I fall for a woman who we might swing with....I could and have. No biggy...If she is not into that I understand... Not everyone can handle the situation Some one mentioned that jealousy are natural.... Only in the sense that by example we are programmed to them, just as we are not "taught " not to eat other people but we kind of get that impression...Canibalism(sp) is not acceptable any more than is marrying ones own sister or brother. Possessiveness is about owning somthing that is not yours to own. No one owns anyone else and especially not their spouse. Is it natural to own a person? I say no. Somehow when people get into a relationship the idea creeps in that says that the other person is your exclusive property. One need to put that aside if one is a swinger. As for jealousy.... Jealousy is a combination of both possessiveness and ones own insadequacies. Maybe one could describe that as fear.. Fear that she or he will meet someone better. Fear that we are not good enough, etc etc etc. So Jealousy is a reaction to these fears and the possessiveness not a true emotion at all. Everyone thinks of Jealousy as an emotion, which it is not. So polyamory is very possibly with swinging but may purists of poly will say that poly and swinging are difinitely two different things... Maybe but they can exist simultaneously. Just a note; More than 60% and I've seen figures up to 77% of all married couples, and I'm sure that it extends to LTR's as well...maybe even swingers, are at some time in their life engaged in serial monogamy..; i.e., either cheating or getting ready for the split-up. Isn't this a simpler form of or something like poly? ... THink about that....

Are you more or less tolerant? - - Now that you're a swinger do you think that you're more or less tolerant of people of a different body type than yours? We ran the Utah Undie Run yesterday (WAY fun, highly recommended btw) and today we were checking out the stories about it from the local news outlets and more than that the message/comment boards. Now we all know that there are a LOT of people in Utah who are/were very offended that some people would run around downtown on Conference Sunday in their underwear so we were expecting a lot of "sour grapes" type comments about it being disrespectful, etc.. What we weren't expecting quite so much were the MANY negative comments about how unattractive the participants were. Sure there were a few that could have hit the gym a little harder but we felt like the majority were actually quite fit and trim (and mostly quite a bit younger than we are-LOL). So it got us wondering if swingers are, in general, more or less tolerant of others who maybe aren't in spectacular shape. Or were you more tolerant before you became a swinger? We're not talking about people you'd necessarily like to fuck just about people in general. What say you?

Game ON....which sign is Hornier...(is that a word?) - zodiac signs of swingers? - I have noticed so far that the couples that have scorpios, it is usualy the mrs. that is the scorpio....lol I agree we are all horndogs!!

is this legit?? - - Discretion (as basically defined by Websters Dictionary ) 1: The quality of being discreet, cautious 2:Ability to make responsible decisions 3a: INDIVIDUAL CHOICE OR JUDGEMENT, to make responsible decisions b: POWER OF FREE DECISION of choice 4: the result of separating or distinguishing Discretionary 1: Left to discretion; excersing at one's own discretion Swinger 1: One that swings as a: a lively up-to-date person who indulges in what is considered fashionable b: one who engages freely in sex **************************** Where some may want to be part of this documentary, that is your INDIVIDUAL CHOICE OF JUDGEMENT, AND POWER OF FREE DECISION some of us may not feel being part of a television documentary fits into our lives, that is our INDIVIDUAL CHOICE OF JUDGEMENT, AND POWER OF FREE DECISION We are swingers, that means we openly engage freely in sex, which is an act of discretion in itself, one most of us throughly enjoy, that does not mean that being non-discreet means we must exploit our personal lives on the television. But if that is your decision. Have a great time doing it! oh and let us all know when the eposide airs, as i am sure many of us would like to see it. lol just my 2 cents xoxo k

Skinny Dipping Spots - Where do you go sans clothes for a dip in Nature? - You can also meet up with the local naturist groups. They have naked activities all the time. The UANR group rents the pool of a local dive shop twice a month for general naked swimming/chatting for the first half then water activities/games (volleyball, tag, etc) afterwards. You can follow their group at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/uanr Other groups you can research are Utah Naturists, NudeUtah, FSD, Wasatch Front Naturists, Skinny-Trippers, AANR, TNS, INF, NLI. Just be respectful and remember that they are naturists/nudists and are not swingers.

swingin - thought this site was a swingers site - *has sex with this thread* Take THAT!

Destiny's October 14th Halloween Motel Party at Quality Inn in K - Meet and Greet social party with On-premise, no pressures/obligations - Destiny's Private Parties Door Donation Gatherings Motel Halloween Party and Contest When: Oct. 14th, 2006 Where: Quality Inn on I-75 North 2nd Floor Meeting rooms Time: 8pm until 1:30/2am Party info: BYOB, On-premise with no pressures/obligations, fingerfoods and drink set-ups provided, coolers welcome, and NO DRESS CODE. More info on web-sites...... http://www.webspawner.com/users/destinyssocials/index.html http://www.webspawner.com/users/destinytw39/index.html Hostess: Tammy Williams Co-hosts: Samantha B. Jesse J. Rick and Sabrina R. Matt and Angie L. http://www.webspawner.com/users/destinyssocials/index.html http://www.webspawner.com/users/destinytw39/index.html http://www.swingular.com/JEFFANDTAMMY/ http://www.hometown.aol.com/tenaseestripper/myhomepage/profile.html http://adultfriendfinder.com/go/p49785c Ice on hand in a large cooler Black lights and disco ball in dance floor area, with 300 watt sound system. Private and open play areas, with air mattresses. Banquet tables with plenty of seating. Motel Rooms Are Available, for guests and members of Destiny's Private Party at a discounted rate, as long as you mention you're with the party group in the meeting room. I have 5 rooms on reserve, just let the front desk know you're with the party, so you can get one of the rooms for your overnight stay. You can also use AAA discounts. Just have my name removed and have yours put in it's place, if you decide to get a room. * * * * *You're not required to get a room to attend the party.* * * * * * Please DO NOT mention "swingers group" to any of the office staff. I rent the meeting rooms for a "Private Party", and that's all anyone needs to know there. We do not run around outside the meeting rooms naked, we are respectful and discreet in our playing, and we want to keep it this way, to have a place to meet at monthly, so please be dressed appropriately when you go to the restrooms, outside the meeting room, above the lobby. Take care and see ya'll soon. Have a great and wonderful day....your Hostess, Tammy Contact information: [email protected] [email protected] [email protected]

Why we ORGY - Why we ORGY - [quote=SAMEROOMONLY][size=100]And now, a word from a noob... My wife and I have only been in the LS a few months, but I feel we have experienced quite a variety of experiences in that time, including house parties, LS clubs and basically an orgy party. We felt comfortable at all of them, but certainly the most pressure we have experienced came from the orgy-type party. It has been the only time when random men thought they could basically touch my wife, lift her skirt and ask to fuck her repeatedly, all without an invitation. We are pretty mellow and level-headed, so I think I did a pretty good job of turning them away without causing a scene, but had we been a little more sensitive I think it may have been a huge turnoff. So when I hear the word orgy, I think of a large party where basically everyone is there to just fuck, not socialize, and nobody really cares about who their dick is in or whose dick is in them. That is probably great for a lot of people, and I don't want this to sound flippant or elitist, but us as a couple we seem to have a higher standard than many swingers out there. In our short time we have already encountered non-clean people, irreverent people, very uneducated people, super creepy people and huge drama people. So to just show up at a party and hope that the plethora of couples we are playing with are clean, non-crazy and haven't been fucking everything from here to Texas, well... I just don't assume that to be true. Notice I didn't say much about looks. Yes, looks are important, but to us, we are looking for more just a hole and a pole. My point is, looks are secondary to many other things. And the only way to establish those "other" things, is to get to know the couple a little. Granted, we are super new to this and are moving slowly into the LS and we don't have that "notch on the belt" mentality yet, but so far, some of our best times have been getting to know the people, connecting, feeling that sexual energy between everyone, and then moving into the play room. We don't expect a couple to provide us any missing emotional support we are lacking in our marriage, as we have a great marriage. We also have a great sex life and this is just an adventure we are taking as a couple. It seems to me the orgy scene is more for people with open marriages, full swap different rooms, or people who otherwise don't care who their spouse if fucking. I trust my wife completely, but I don't trust others, and my need to protect her seems natural enough. Oh,maybe in a huge orgy you can both experience things together, but it does seem like you just jump in a pile and fuck whoever is in front of you. If not, then it is more a social, where you all talk first, enjoy each other's company, tell some jokes and get know the couple, then, if interested, you can all go fuck. So to me, that scenario is a social, not an orgy, which is the topic at hand. An orgy is more of a situation where you show up, who cares if you talk, drop your pants and start fucking. It seems more dangerous to me on an STD level as I don't imagine if you fuck 10 girls in a night you are changing condoms every time, or even wearing one, though I realize my assumption may be completely off, just giving you my opinion here as to why I wouldn't be AS interested in an orgy (it still would be fun to watch). Also, questions like "how many people have you fucked this week" and "do you wear protection" are much easier over a glass of bourbon than while sucking on a cock or pussy. Probably a little awkward. So... to finalize this huge monstrosity, different strokes for different folks. We like meeting new couples, we like to make new friends and we feel there is a greater reward with friends with benefits. Just as in our marriage where our sex is great because we know the other person so well, so we think playing with others may be enhanced by our understanding of the other couples needs and desires. Do we ever think it is fun just to meet somebody and play immediately? Probably. But do we think that our long term goals, our health and our mutual respect for each other is better served by meeting a couple, having the time to discuss how we feel about the couple in the privacy of our marriage and then moving forward as we both agree upon is the best way for us? Most definitely. And the small amount of wasted time we may experience trying to arrange meetings is a small price to pay for that piece of mind. We have made great friends, that if we never played with again, would still be our friends, so that is just icing on the cake. And maybe we have been lucky but we haven't experienced a lot of flakes, just a lot of busy, cool people with jobs and families, just like ourselves. So say we all!![/size][/quote] Another well said opinion that we completely agree with.

swingin - thought this site was a swingers site - If you get tired of all the non-sex forums, start a thread about sex then :) I think there is room for everybody's interests. Mrs DP

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