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Lying About Your Age? - Is lying about your age considered proper? - [quote=MAGNETIC]Does age really matter? I know several couples on this site and others that have porposely lowered their age. Basically, lying about how old they are. Is it considered proper among swingers to lie about how old they are? If they lie about their age, what else are they lying about? Once you find out how old they really are, and knowing they lied, would you trust them? Or, can you say you are younger if you look younger than your age? Does lying about age fall into the same catagory of deceit as posting pictures that are 5 to 10 years old, or saying 10 lbs or more overweigth is "Average"? Would having a penile implant or hysterectomy matter. Some would think it would matter more than age would. What's your opinion?[/quote] Does age really matter? Of course not. However...when is it ever apropos to lie about anything in the Lifestyle.... Kind of a no-brainer.

Swingers Party - Doesnt mean who ever is there is open to everyone elsa - After 11+ years swinging I would have let my wife handle it he way. One should never. at any swinging event, be it a house party or a social, ever come to blows with anyone at that party. You can say something to the person who encroached on good manners but if that has no effect or the person wishes to become violent, go to the owners/people throwing the event and let them know... If the bad manners continue simply let the people throwing the event know that you are leaving and for what reason....If these people are not responsible you might wish to let others know that these events are unsupervised and good ediquite is not practiced there.... But let the people who threw the event what you think first... they may take care of the situation, knowint that their reputation is on the line....One does not have to be nasty either just let them know you think it is irresponsible to let that behavior continue... The no fighting rule or no violence is one of the unnumbered rules of swinging.

Those damn single men! - Where do they fit in this lifestyle? - I always seem to bring up the dead topics because I don't forum check every day, just when I can't sleep... I get asked a lot where single men fit in swinging, since we openly invite them into our play time and I loved TequilaRose's response. Thank you for putting the perfect words down for me. And I quote so all can read them again, as I find them truly important to understand: "...singles can be swingers. swinging is not a "couple" only thing. Swinger or Libertine means that you are not bound by moral restraint when you engage in sex. In other words, you don't need to honor the "holy matrimonial sanctity" of a married couple, whether you are in the married couple or wishing to engage in sex with them. So I still contend that a swinger can not be pigeon holed as a swapping couple only. " Swapping is partner exchange, swinging is open minded people be they male, female, straight, gay, or bi, married or single. The original poster wanted to know good advice for the single male to be picked out of the see of choices, and here are my criteria, which btw are things I say long before I arrange to sleep with them. 1. Never approach me (in person or email) and just say "wanna fuck" It's never funny, and always gets you a no thanks. If you like my profile, say something, don't just "someone likes you" It makes you look like a picture hunter and I'll delete it without even looking at you. 2. Listen to and adhear to my personal 'rules' which are: you are not my new best friend. I don't want daily text messages or phone calls. If I was looking for phone sex, I'd call my hubby at work. I prefer the 'you free thursday at 11am?' messages. If we pick a time, stick to it. You only get one chance. You stand me up, you're history. Hubby will always know where I am and with who and will hear all the kinky details. Nothing is secret or behind his back. Hotels are on your dime, not mine. If you don't have a suitable bachelor pad for our afternoon delights, I'm gonna think you're married and lied to me Afternoons I might be able to fit you in, nights and weekends I spend with hubby. When looking to play alone with a single guy, I will never pick time with you over time I could be with him. Don't even ask. 3. NO CHEATERS, ever. If I find out you're married and lied to me, I warn you up front, I will be the girl that calls her up and tells her. Might even have pics to prove it.... watch out, I bite. 4. Stick to the girls/couples rules, it's respectful, and everyones are going to be different. The above mentioned almost sound mean, but it's just upfront. The men I've met are more than happy to adhere to my rules of conduct. I have had only good experiences from the single men I've met on this site. Not all ended up regulars, but no experience was 'negative'. The only really bad swing experience we had was when we first started swinging over 8 years ago, and it was with the male half of a couple. Didn't scare us away from other couples, we just learned from it and moved on. The bashing is stupid and as soon as someone opens their mouth and lashes out at someone else opinions they drop massive IQ points in my book. Too sad..... Do what makes you happy and ignore the rest. Enjoy "that you are not bound by moral restraint when you engage in sex" :) Mrs Curious

Single male in this lifestyle.. - I have questions for couples and single females. - At the risk of restating for the millionth time... Cold hard truth time, JOSH. Single guys in the lifestyle are a dime a dozen (that's a really old fashioned way of saying there are a LOT of you). And believe it or not you all claim you're super spiffy dudes (you're not...not all of you anyway). If you all WERE super duper All American boy-next-door stud muffins you'd have girls falling all over you and we wouldn't be having this (single male) conversation for the bazillionth time. So let's do the math. There are a LOT of single guys in the lifestyle (despite some who would argue that singles aren't really swingers). There are fewer couples in the lifestyle and even fewer single ladies (again despite that 'swingles aren't swingers' argument). So even factoring in the fact that ALL swinger females are insatiable minxes who have sex almost continuously there just isn't enough time in the day for them to get around to fucking each and every single guy. Sorry, man. My advice to you, and you aren't gonna like it, is to take all those amazing qualities you possess and find a hottie of your own that you can go out into the wild world of swingdom and share with other people. Swinging really is a couple centric activity. There's a reason it used to be called "wife swapping" and people wearing like disco clothes and gold chains and stuff used to go to key parties. Can you imagine the chaos that would have ensued if a bunch of single guys threw their keys in the bowel at a key party? ps- If you'd rather not find a woman to swing with and prefer to keep your single male status my advice to you would be to grow a very thick skin, become more patient than a Buddhist monk and never ever ever come across as desperate or WORSE pissy that you don't feel like you're getting your fair share of hot swinger tail.

Swingers dying out? - Is the utah swinger community dying or becoming to needy? - We really hope it's just time for that new group to go wild. We love those a list couples like everyone else but we love feeling like the a list couple too lol but all these older couples 60-90 keep trying to add us and the younger ones won't even reply hi or anything and don't even get me started on the females it's like we are the plague up in here we just want to have some real fun we are planning on getting a few motels/hotels this summer and hope more people want to play and we are moving to west south salt lake valley area and hope to throw some crazy parties there too. We've been on here a year and it's quite the challenge especially cus we aren't in the utah valley clique and everyone who seems interested is to far away hope that changes when we move but if that doesn't work we getting the f*** out of here. And welcome to Miami will be our new fav thing to say. Hah

Non-Biased Profile Advice: - Want some honest advice about your profile? - We think people can only portray so much as to what type of people and swingers they are with a few pics and paragraphs. To have someone edit it is almost like editing or cropping. We dont really want to meet people who have to dress up their profile. Just keep it real. FYI we have been in the lifestyle for about five years, just new to this site.

Swallow or not to swallow - - Mmmm... call me crazy but I love the power of knowing I have made a man cum with my mouth and love the taste. I will have to say though that it is a taste that took a while to acquire a desire for. In my early teen days I did not like it but gradually grew to acquire the tasty flavor. I know several women that do not like to swallow and most of them put on a show of letting it run out of their mouth down their chin or simply tell the man that they don't swallow. However, I have run in to very very few ladies in the swingers community that do not swallow. Just tell the guy up front that you don't.

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What really defines a TRUE swinger? - - [quote=INVITESOME][quote=T4REAL69] Didn't get enough hugs from your mom or is it a simple fact that you just wear your underwear too tight? Once again get over yourself![/quote] Most single males don't know the meaning of "NO" and are just like stray dogs in heat that just keep coming back no matter how many times you hit them with a newspaper. Bad dog. Go away!!![/quote] Since you are obviously well qualified to both evaluate and judge "MOST" single males, I can only assume you've done extensive research into the matter by either playing with, or personally meeting "MOST" of the single men who consider themselves to be swingers. Interesting. And thank you for sharing the results of your years of in-depth studies with the rest of us - as oppossed to merely stating some half-baked personal opinion. I hope to one day achieve your level of expertise in something.

Sexy swingers closer to our age - 20-30 year old sexy swingers - 38 and 44. New to this site. Looking forward to meeting fun friends.