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Alternate Semi Swinging Site? - FInding the right connections - While the commonly used definition of swingers is: couples who swap with another couple, it's all under the umbrella of Open relationships. It's a gradient, like many things to do with sexuality. We're not traditional swingers, but have on occasion. Some people like full swap, some soft, some like to cuck or be cuckolded (is that 'for everyone?' Sure, if everyone involved is getting something they enjoy and want out of it), or woman-on-woman play between couples. As long as it's open, honest, ethical and not coerced, and is enjoyable and emotionally healthy for everyone involved, go have your flavor of fun! We love being around sex-positive open-minded people, and if a situation happens organically, it happens. Completely enjoy doing same-room/own partner or girl-on-girl things, and become flirty partysexuals. And, we LOVE voyeur, exhibitionism, kink and sensual play, and usually have a few fun situations going at most parties, and even more so privately or in our smaller, more intimate gatherings. We love to watch, be watched, be around sexy people, even more so as the clothes come off, and find that threesomes are what we organically find more often than other situations. (She's bi, and dated women exclusively for a decade, so loves pursuing that) Do what works for you and makes you happy. Communication is key. Definitions and expectations can sometimes lead to miscues, so say more up front about what you are looking for and find those who are interested in the same.

Other activities? - Do you only meet swingers for sex? - Okay.. so we\'ve been wondering.. and along the same lines of a couple of other \"swingers & friendship\" posts. Do you all meet people (swingers) off here & other sites etc for anything other than sex? And if so what do you all do together? and as someone else posted (thankyou whoever you are) in one of the other threats. When you first open up sexually with people you really don\'t know if they are going to be friends (espiecally if your meeting someone first time at a club or offline)... So what do you do? We\'ll be the first to answer.. So far our swinging experience has been with 4 people, one long term friend who before and after we continued to meet for drinking, meals, bowling, cinema, fire\'s in the desert and just hanging out (no sex). The next we meet a couple of times for drinks and dinner before getting sexual and haven\'t had chance to re-meet yet. Following that it was definatly a one time only (not our intention, but we were lied too) and the verdict is still out on the 4th. Of course we we like #2 & #4 to become friends to hangout with benifits when they happen, but we\'ll have to wait and see. Does anyone else wonder about this stuff? A & P

Help With Wife - Wife has fantasies but is super hesitant to experiment. - Personally I think you might be a little too eager (can't blame you, we all were when we started) and pushing just a little too hard to make her fantasy a reality. Rather than trying to find a way to get around the "Catch 22" of her fantasy maybe just explore it more verbally and see if it evolves into some kind of scenario that she is comfortable with that more easily can happen in the real world. The most successful swingers we know, ourselves included, arrived at where they are by being open and supportive of each other's fantasies and desires without forcing them in any way. In other words, be patient, explore your fantasies verbally and maybe role play, a LOT, with each other before you jump into anything that either of you isn't quite ready for. You might be surprised as you fantasize openly and honestly how your fantasies might evolve and become something that you eventually can and will make a reality. You know your wife better than anyone and maybe she does need a little nudge but most of the swingers we've known over the years who've crashed and burned did so because one partner pushed the limits too fast and didn't wait for the more hesitant partner to catch up. In our case we were quite surprised and what our fantasies morphed into when we really dug deep and talked about the truly deviant (by local standards anyway-lol) aspects of our fantasies. Sorry, I know that's probably not the kind of advice you were hoping for but it's been our observation over a rather lengthy swinging career. Another thought, if you're bound and determined to make your first swinging experience a MFM, is to find a guy who is okay with just watching you two play or maybe getting involved in some soft swinging...i.e. back rubs and or touching but no intercourse. We were soft swap for the first year or two of our swinging life and it was great fun and took the pressure off until we were ready to take the next step. Best of luck! edit- Sorry about what now seems like a long rambling response. In my defense it was pre-coffee. [em]Emo_79[/em]

Girls that are into DP - How common is this activity among the swingers? - This is one aspect that is easier to fulfill if you allow single males....i had 5 for my birthday party and omg they drained me dry! Can't wait for another "surprise birthday party" wink wink ;) Kisses, Naugh-Ty

So are you the gal who folks suspect? or the last person they c - Wish we could do polls on here??? - Both my parents know, and they are on the site. But we keep our sexual encounters to ourselves. My parents probably expected me to be the "bad" girl, my sister on the other hand is totaly different and don't agree with the lifestyle. But we have been honest with our friends and have told them we are Swingers.

Event Ideas - Can we get more events that don't center around alcohol and dancing? - [quote=TRIXIEE][quote=EUPHORICFLOODTIDES]How about pajama and lingerie porn night at the movies. The attendees come dressed for bed. Think a small Independent theater would be game?[/quote] Humph ... we TRIED to get a group to meet at the DRIVE INN theater on Riverdale Rd last year but I think we were the only ones that showed up ... NO ONE made an attempt at introductions at the vehicle we said we'd be in [/quote] Tee-hee, I'm picturing the mess left at a "small independent theater" after a swingers viewing of a porn show. How much do ya gotta pay someone to clean that one up? [em]Emo_85[/em] Then I'm picturing a porn pic being displayed on a Riverdale Drive in theater, wondering how long before the cops'd be there to bust it up 'cause of all the teenagers parked on that road out front trying to peer over the fence!! But seriously, that seems to be what I've noticed about some of the "alternate" events that get proposed -- seems like a good idea but no one shows up? It'd be fun to go to the drive-in though Trixiee, maybe we ought-a try that again when the season arrives. So does anyone know where I can get a cheap panel van?? [em]Emo_28[/em]

BiCouple2018 - Texas Swingers? - Anyone from Texas in here? Looking to meet new people.

Friend collectors or swingers - - We fwb couple. We don't like collecting friends and I usually clean out most about once a year. Just hard to find a good friend

Christain Swingers? - - Me, male half, am a born again, spirit filled child of god. I grew up Penticostal(sp?), but I have since learned to think for myself. I do beleave that Adultry in the bible refeared to cheating. Going behind your husband/wifes back & sleeping with someone else. It is all in how you look at it & its true translation. Look at "Thou shalt not kill". This is NOT you will not kill someone like everyone says. If so David, who killed Golith would have not made it into heaven. God himself helped David kill Golith & he himself killed others. This in itself would mean God committed a sin. The correct, in my eyes & other preachers I have talked with about this, is "Thou shalt not Kill' Means you shall not committ cold blooded murder. It is all in how you take the meaning. So I do beleave you can be a Christain, go to church & still swing. I could get more indepth but will not :).

Sex clubs in Salt Lake? - Or is Las Vegas the best bet? - [quote=Utahldscouple][quote=Canvas][quote=PARTYINLV]Nothing in SLC can come even close to Vegas in comparison. There are many places here. But we recommend two for you. If you can spare two nights in Vegas, check out Whispers one night and Playhouselv the other night.[/quote] Thanks! Was hoping you'd chime in. Two nights sound good. However, if we only have one night, would you recommend one over the other? Also, regarding Playhouselv, just so I'm clear....one has to become a "member" first ($10/couple), then it's $100 entry fee after that. Do I have that right? Thanks to the other posters too. Keep the comments/thoughts/experiences coming. Would love to hear more![/quote]That is correct.[/quote] It's difficult to advise which club to visit if you only had one night. Not everyone who wants to go to Playhouselv is admitted. They are selective and we have some friends who were denied access. We also have some friends who were approved and absolutely love going there. We are good friends with the couple that runs Whispers. We actually play them this week in our lifestyle Fantasy Football league. lol. They are a great couple and do a great job there. The main difference is that Whispers never allows single males, whereas Playhouselv has specific nights when single guys can come. You can't go wrong with either place. But, definitely stay away from the tourist trap, Green Door. It's filthy with guys following you around jacking off. No bar, no DJ, no dancing, etc. Red Rooster is iconic for it's dated vintage look. It's busy with a loyal following that caters to an older crowd. It's not for us, but it might be fun to check out because it is iconic. Just keep your expectations low. We do like going to Risque Estate during the daytime for the nude pool. It's worth paying the extra $20 for a daybed cabana to stay shaded. It's is a relaxing environment hanging out with other nudists. The evenings there are hit and miss. Whispers has a busier daytime nude pool on the weekends. The atmosphere is more of a party scene compared to the quiet of Risque. Of course, some resorts on the strip have topless pools. But, you have to find the swingers amongst the mostly vanilla crowd. Whatever you do, we hope you have a great time.