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Ways to point out Swingers in public - - My wife bought me a super cool chevron stack ring (3 rings that stack together) by David Yurman. The middle ring is black. I wear it on my right hand and sometimes pull the 2 silver rings off and just wear the black middle ring. I’m always on the look out for black rings. We have some friends that wear them.
North Ogden Police - Need a fitness program - I'm not really sure what you mean about "swingers constantly say(ing) they are not treated equally". And I don't think anyone really had an issue with what he posted as far as necessarily disagreeing with his views. Although to be honest I'm pretty certain it was a fair bit of hyperbole. I think they, perhaps somewhat ineloquently, took issue with him posting something on a swingsite that perhaps would have been better posted on the North Ogden City website or maybe on the KSL.com news hotline. And then of course RUSTY (the l'il scamp) took issue with them taking issue and as he is often wont to do made it a personal attack. And me being EVIL I just sat back and laughed at his self immolation. I apologize. Now on the other hand, calling RUSTY a gentleman...well, that's just uncalled for! I'm jest a funnin' ya man. Let's all go over ta Miss Kitty's an I'll buy ya both a nice cold sasparilla and we can talk about fat cops and equality for swingers. We should totally boycott Conference next week until they make a swinger a G.A.. [em]Emo_84[/em]
Swinging ,Or cheating? - - Swinging is having sex with people who are not your legal spouses. By definition, having sex with someone who is not your legal spouse is cheating. Therefore all swingers are cheaters, whether or not the spouse knows it. Now, throw that out the window, and label everyone who swings, as cheaters, but ONLY if their spouse does not participate. Don\'t bother to find out if he or she knows, approves, or even suggested it themselves.
Having said that, I am still totally amazed that there are so many narrow-minded folks in this lifestyle. Yes, I completely agree that EVERYONE should know what is going on. I completely DISAGREE that those who play without their spouse\'s participation are automatically defiend as cheaters.
I cannot speak for anyone else, but the fact remains, I don\'t do a thing without my spouse knowing about it. That includes participation in video chat (which she comes to very frequently, just ask anyone who is a regular), e-mailing or chatting with others, meeting, hanging out, or even adult play. If people bothered to get to know me, they would know that. But they knee-jerk and completely eliminate great people like me from their lives, just because they didn\'t bother to look before their leap to label.
If they want to shut me out because I am married and my wife doesn\'t participate, they should go ahead and exercise their right to do so. It doesn\'t bother me a bit. They are perfectly entitled to do so, and I applaud them for that choice.
But they are not allowed to jump to the conclusion that I am \"cheating\" because she doesn\'t play. That\'s grade-school-playground namecalling, slanderous, and beyond immature.
If you don\'t know the circumstances, then you don\'t have the right to go around labeling everyone else. Whoever you are.
Gym - - There are actually a fair number of swingers we know at our Gold's. There are probably more than we even know about but most of the peeps there seem to be pretty serious about their workouts and don't seem to be looking for hookups. Too bad they don't have like a swinger's hour or maybe a Wife Swap Till You Drop class. ;-)
Game ON....which sign is Hornier...(is that a word?) - zodiac signs of swingers? - Here are the totals as of 4-7-09 9:30am:
Scorpio 13
Gemini 12
Cancer 11
Virgo 10
Aries 9
Sagittarius 8
Libra 8
Leo 6
Capricorn 6
Pisces 5
Taurus 5
Aquarius 4
swingers helper... - I know some of us need this every now and again... - been thinking about taking up cycling!
Swingers clubs in Amsterdam - - We are looking more for some interaction with others SUENDAN, LOL. It's always an option to have a party for 2 however. May try suggestions from PANDJSWING. Thanks for responding.
Kik group for UT swingers. - Contact me if your interested in joining a KIK group for Swingers - Shingeki801 if there's room for a SM.
Observations from the other side of the room - Some unsolicited advice - [quote=EVILDOERS]All good advice. You should give seminars to the GAZILLIONS of single males who think female swingers are nymphomaniac, wanton sluts who will fuck anyone, any time, anywhere and that their husbands/partners are pathetic, impotent cucks who don't know how to please their partners and need a "real" man to satisfy their wives/girlfriends. You could make BANK teaching the utterly clueless how to act like a gentleman and do a service to the lifestyle by helping to weed out the twatwaffles who have no business even ATTEMPTING to enter a lifestyle they know nothing about and should leave immediately![/quote]
That's a really good idea! I am no authority but I agree that Utah guys have a bad reputation. I have heard similar stories from friends on vanilla dating sites where the guy just wants a one night stand.
I am glad that my post was read and responded to.
I agree that my comments are common sense as well. Unfortunately, common sense isn't all that common.
Any suggestions on what to name my seminar?
Question for those in the lifestyle - What is the answer! - Why would you envolve me in your problem. I am not a part of it. But, if I have sex with you and you get caught, I am part of a bigger problem that has just been created. NO THANK YOU! You don"t belong in the lifestyle under these circumstances. (By the way this is the M half, but we both feel the same about this)
My wife and I were Soft Swingers for about 8yrs before she decided to go the full swap route. She is happy with her decision to do so, and enjoys the fun WE are having now. I would have liked to have got to this point a lot sooner and had often encouraged her to go for it. She told me several times, it would be alright for me to have sex with someone else if I really wanted too. There was no way I would take that chance of messing up the good thing we had. Neither of us had ever cheated on each other. This doesn't make us goody-two-shoes. It did build a trust which makes it posible for us to share the benefits of this lifestyle with confidense in each other, now.
We feel Trust and Honesty are two things that have to exist if you are going to enjoy the swinging as a couple. Sorry to hear about your situation, but we could not solve your problem if we were to play with you, only possibly make it worse. Thats just the way it is for us.
I feel some of the suggestions offered in the previous post may be your best route to go.
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