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International Swingers Day - How are you celebrating? - [quote=ASHY][/quote] I guess it's the main night tonight. It doesn't seem to be a big thing in Utah.

Equal Treatmeat for all singles - singles - There are a lot of good points that have been made but the reality of it is this, whether you want to believe it or not. Swingers are in this lifestyle for the fun. The majority of swingers are couples and some would even argue that you have to be a couple to be considered a swinger but that's another topic. Swingers are here to connect with others whether for sex or friendship. If it is for sex, it is for the fun of sex to enjoy with other like minded people. Some choose to have this sex with other couples, some choose to have this sex with single males or single females. We all have the right to choose. If we choose not to have sex with single males, it doesn't mean we have some sort of trust or self-confidence issues, it just means it's not what we want to do. Same with couples or single females. Yes, single men are a dime a dozen and that is where the problem lies. There are thousands and thousands of single men who enter this lifestyle and most of them do it because of the sex. They have no understanding of or respect for the lifestyle and so their actions give the ones who do a bad name. So with that said, let's say the percentage of bad single men compared to non is 95%. Now, that doesn't mean there are some bad single women or bad couples. But let's put this into perspective. The number of single women in this lifestyle is a very, very small percentage. Yet, let's say the percent of bad single women compared to non is only 5%. And couples, well, they are already a couple with both a guy and a girl and they are already given a free pass into the lifestyle because, well, they are a couple so we'll leave them out of this equation. So now you have two different seals. The Real Seal and the VIP Seal. They both serve a similar purpose; to show that you have somehow proven that you are a real person or couple. The difference is that the VIP which stands for Validated In Person can only be given out by an admin or local host. And the person holding the VIP is the only person other than an admin or local host that can issue a REAL seal. Make sense? Now, as a single male in that 95%, what do you care most about? Probably getting laid and seeing as many pictures as you can. After trying unsuccessfully to get people to send you pictures or give you access to their private photo albums, you decide to create a fake profile as a single female or couple. What are your chances of creating that profile and getting someone to show you their private collection? Better, but not by much because a lot of couples will not show them to you unless you have a REAL or VIP seal. So it deters them from becoming picture collectors. But wait, if that single male was able to somehow get a VIP seal on his single male profile, he could now validate his own fake profile as REAL and raise his chances of seeing more private albums and faking his way on this site. Now you tell me who is more likely going to fake a profile. A couple? A single female? or a single male? I'll tell you who, it's not going to be a couple or a single female because that is what most people are looking for so why would they need to? It's a sad reality but it's reality. And that is why we have the seals in the first place, otherwise, why would we need them? Now for parties and such, the reason why single females are mostly allowed and single men are not is for similar reasons as mentioned earlier. You have more single guys interested in this lifestyle than single women and it's more likely you would have 100 single men at a party and only a handful of women. As a couple, especially a new couple, that's pretty intimidating and out of those 100 single men, if 95% of them had no respect for the lifestyle, what are the chances that something bad could happen? Even if it was only 20%, the chances of some single male ruining it for the rest is pretty high? Get my point? So that is why you rarely see parties that allow single men. And it really sucks for those singles who are gentlemen. Again, it's a sad reality but it's reality. For all you single men out there who are in this lifestyle for the right reasons, keep doing what you are doing and someone will notice you. There are plenty of people looking for single men but you have to make yourself stand out from the crowd. Be patient and don't try too hard and eventually it will come to you. I hope this sheds a little light on this subject. These percentages may not be exact but it's a close scenario. I've been in this lifestyle for a very long time and some of that was as a single male so I know both sides. It's not being discriminatory, it's what has to be done to protect the main people in this lifestyle and that's the couple. Unfortunately, because of that, the single male gets the short end of the stick. But it has to happen, otherwise you would scare off the majority of couples interested in this lifestyle and without them, you have no one to meet in the first place. You might as well just post an ad on a regular dating site if that was the case.

What is your favorite kind of sex toys? - - We were wondering what everyone's toy of choice is. and also, if anyone has any suggestions on toys, you can pass them along to your fellow swingers. Also, a side topic that I would like to address is when you break up with someone, do you throw away toys you used with that partner? And yet another side topic, we could talk about toy cleaning and care. Where to get the best deals, what websites or stores in your area do you use? some toys are way pricey, and some toys are dirt cheap. this also includes bondage gear, special beds (iron beds with loops at strategic places for restraints and whatnot) this should be a very fun topic!

Kik group for UT swingers. - Contact me if your interested in joining a KIK group for Swingers - Looks like we would enjoy the fun. Knjmurray on kik

Why so much hate in the swingers world... - - thats are choice,, if that makes us racist so be it,, do you not like us thats your choice,, but thats our opinion,, Alton

Newbies looking for swingers club - - We are new to the lifestyle and want to try it out. We are planning on going to either Sapphire Lounge in Jupiter, FL or Trapeze Club in Ft. Lauderdale, FL on Saturday Sept. 5, 2009 We are looking to hook up with single ladies, so we were wondering which club would be better. Any suggestions? Thanks so much in advance for any responses! Happy Couple

Why so much hate in the swingers world... - - ULUV, Yeah, ya know, I wouldn't take much to heart when it comes to comments from Utah in regard to anything racial...this is about the Whitest State in the US. I honestly think that a lot of folks feel threatened by Single Males. Perhaps they've forgotten that they've been single? Forgot what that's like, maybe. Or maybe they were never single in this lifestyle. It's a tough crowd for a party of one. I'm lucky enough to have been a single male in this lifestyle a couple of times. It taught me A LOT! I simply filled a niche and had a blast (and wasn't really lacking play...due to the niche). And then there's Don...oye. Man, I'll send Ms. K_T over to drill a hole in the bottom of that bottle Don. We'll get it outta there in no time! -K_T

Swingers cars??? - What ya driving?? - Rolling a 2009 freightliner century class s/t oh yeah and I get a whopping 51/2 miles to the gallon lol

Do your friends and family know about your lifestyle? - - Our 23 year old daughter figured it out, when our son kept telling her we were going to some convention here in town....she looked to see what conventions were in Vegas that week and put two and two together. We also have friends who arent swingers that know. We dont mind telling people but we're selective about who we mention it openly to, just because some people just dont get it.

Black Rings - Do Swingers really? - We have not purchased black rings, We both get approached quite frequently I guess we just put off that vibe