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Swinger Hangout - Clubs - My girlfriend is curious about the lifestyle and I would like to take her to a bar or club where swingers hangout so she can meet some. Now that Habits and Moose are closed, I don't know where to go. Does anyone know the current hangout?
ogden meet and great - - [quote=UTAH-CPLE-2006]It seems having it in a "closed off" area just invites scrutiny. Look at habits, its not private but they had meet and greets there for years. You can have one at any bar, just a group of friends out for the evening and then if you do run into someone and they say "there are swingers here..." you just go really? where? lol[/quote] I agree...people get flirty & naughty in clubs all the time. What's to hide? If you're concerned about someone you know outside the LS seeing you flirting with another, just remember sometimes NOT touching can be great foreplay too. ;) It's just a meet and greet. It's a bunch of people getting together & loving life! No need to be separated if it's not easily available. Looks like Ogden needs something like this. Good idea to organize. :)
Appropriate Parameters of Sexual Conduct in Modern Society - Should sex still have a unique status or just be another hobby? - Beard, You did open something up but I'm not sure what.
I had to copy and paste your original here so I didn't miss or get too confused..
One of your last points first: Moral refers to standards as defined by the church, the government or your neighbors(in light of the Supreme Court decission a few years ago about porn) Ethics, on the other hand are something that we define for ourselves based on our upbringing/environment and values that we have defined based on whatever we base them on.
You are right that marriage is a concept designed by religion and the government for the care of offspring and the clear definition of linage for property rights. You use the term marriage, which is a legal term like it is a moral imperative then ask if it should be based on some one or group of common interrests. Then the next breath you suggest that marriage is supposed to be more than any of that and something to do with sharing and intimacy. Finally you go back to somehow trying to make a point, (I'm not sure what that point was) that maybe there should be a conglomerate of reasons for marriage then with the nesxt breath you ask if sex should be forbidden..
Now lets see if this makes any sense to anyone. I'm poly and We swing. I have a lover who is married and her husband knows or us(he is not poly) and B knows of us and we are all good friends. We are, my lover and I, intimate both emotionally and sexually and both non poly mates knowof this. B and I are very much soulmates but then my lover is also very close to that as well. I do not wish to take her away from her husband and I do not wish to replace B. She does not want to replace her husband with me and we are alll OK with that arrangement.
In my heart of heart I am married to both in a very intimate way although I do not wish to procreate with anyone anymore. She feels the same way toward me. I would submit that marriage is an intimate, emotional and sometimes physical union of people.. I did not say two people I said people. We have been taught sex as a negative thing and relationships with more than one as a negative thing because we cannot love more than one person or more than one at any one time... I submit that we can love more than one and that the more we love the more we get back from that...
Swinging is started off as fun between close friends and sometimes the term wife swapping became a reality.... Sex is fun adn swinging is about sex and today alot of times about relationships. Relationships in my opinion are for the benefit of everyone involved... .
So I'm not sure if I understood where you were going but this is my take on the propositions as I understood them.
Depending on any person's opinion or preferences sex and love can be the same or they can be separate or they can be coincidental but it's basically up to that person or couple to make that determination....
We, in the lifestyle, may ultimately be right and marriage may change to a more contractual thing rather than some sacrosanct BS that it has become.... Swingers as a group have more than 3.4 time greater chance of remaining married than that of non swingers. The range of failed marriages is between 66 and 77% in all first and second marriages and some 70% of all married people cheat on their mates. Swinger have a better than 85% chance of marriage survival. Cheating is not exempt in Swinging but I think is is greatly reduced...
I think as swingers we have sex with friends and it can be just that or it can be more... at least for me..
truth dare or double dare - - I've loved this kind of thing - forever - and have designed my own games, too.
Glad to see the excitement here for your game.
Anybody up for putting together a convention to *play* such games? I always find that the swingers conventions are focussed on fucking - and I think it would be fun to play some games to lead up to it. Tease a little. Enjoy it. Spend a whole weekend doing this kind of game.
If we schedule it, will anybody attend? When and where should we hold such an event?
And, by the way, I'd love a copy of your game. Perhaps I can provide mine in exchange.
Young swingers party - sold out, who still wants to party ? - It's funny how it says young swingers party for those under 45. Such a percentage of the peeps who RSVP'd are over that, or are lying.
PSA: Check your public face photos to make sure they’re blurred - - Hey-not having the main face pic blurred out is how I found out my neighbors were swingers.
Messages - why don't people want to message back - 1. All the sites are crawling with fake couple profiles that are pic collectors or guys trying to cheat.
2. People here have the idea of dabbling but are not serious about it.
3. People have their ideal encounter in their head and are only looking for that exact situation.
4. People are simply lazy. They wanna push a button (like the FR one) and let you do all the work.
5. People totally content with swinging are already in an established party or meet group and have people come to them now. They are tons of fun, experienced swingers that know how to balance normal life and swinging life.
So we always tell newbs there is a huge learning curve to this lifestyle. No, it’s not the sex part, we all already do that, it’s the ability to sort through the mess and find connections. Living where you do makes it even harder. Try some other sites to see if they fit better. AFF usually has a good listing in your area. Try posting up something when you have free time and see what comes your way. Don’t jump at every friend request. Our experience over 4 years is the blind ones with no message lead no where.
We use the sites for first contact, then k!k (you can live pic verify there) and chat to see if it’s a match. Remember it’s a frustrating road ahead. Even after getting to full chat and meeting time, we really only meet 5% of the people we talk to, and we are super flexible and drive many miles to meet and play. Just keep at it. We are to the point now we can spot most flakes, cheaters and collectors quickly and we block and move on. When you do finally meet just be open. Network, be friends, that can lead to parties or new friends. Start looking to just meet cool fucking people and learn from there.
Swingers In Uniform - Pay your memorial day respects here. - We salute and appreciate all the members of the military. We know that our very lives and our hard earned freedoms are a direct result of what thay sacrifice in order to keep us all safe. We have attached our Memorial Day Salute to all veterans..........
Required info for swingers - - [video]http://www.youtube.com/v/FKkCyVPju1k[/video]
Swingers circle - Whats with them - We went to a Halloween party paid to get in and there was supposed to be alcohol and food, we got there 30min after it started and the bar was dry, with a promise of someone was on a run to get more but more never came.
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