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patriot or not - pledge - I've been reading, with some interest, the pontifications and protestations on the issues of this post. Some talk about morals some about duty some about apothy of people. I 'll ask: What is worals? Are swingers moral if society finds it averant? Is this country based on good Christian principals? Is this current government or administration trying to turn this country into a theocracy? This ccountry was founded so that everyone should have the right to live their life in their own manner, to be free to pursue whatever they wish so long as it does not interfere with others rights and liberties, and to be happy in those rights.
As for religion, here I go again quoting the father of our constitution, Thomas Jefferson said; "I have recently been examining all known superstitions of the world, and do not find in our particular superstition (Christianity) one redeeming feature. They are all alike founded on fables and mythology."
God's be damned, government be damned as well and if we do nothing to oppose bad government we are not patriotic, we are fools who will watch our country drown in it's own bile.. We can talk forever about what is and is not good but until we live what is good and moral, (morality is that principle which basically says "do no harm" like the doctors pledge) but until we apply true morality to our own lives and speak boldly to government which rules in fear and demogogery and to business which thinks that God is a dollar or a yen or any other form of currency, we will be be responsible for our own plight....
Just a thought or two... Since we do not study history or at least it's tennons we will be forced to repeat the mistakes made before....
Kik group for UT swingers. - Contact me if your interested in joining a KIK group for Swingers - Icemanbird2 for us
swingin - thought this site was a swingers site - highway u r good i do not know what to say but is that all u have everyone talk feeedom of speech til someone talksand u all bad mouth him
and highway i think u need to stick to the highway the road has treated u good....
so keep the baby comments cummin whatever makes u all feel good bring it on
Are swingers moral? - Who determines what morals are? - I think there are a number of definitions of "moral".
I've always tried to live a good clean, law-abiding life - one guided by the Golden Rule.
I've never stolen from anyone, I've never killed anyone, and I've never knowingly done anything to hurt anyone.
As it applies to the Swinging Lifestyle, let me put it this way:
I may "fuck" your wife - but I'd never "fuck" you.
So tell me, does that make me moral or immoral?
Requesting participants! - - Hi Everybody,
Who says you have to live in Utah to have a great orgy?
The Jacksonville Seductions Group is planning a huge get together for Swingers to meet with each other on Friday April 21st in the St. Augustine Area, and a follow on orgy to end all orgies ;)
Send me an email if you would like details or an invite.
I hope to meet you all then.
Why so much hate in the swingers world... - - The first step in fixing something is to recognize that it's a problem.
-D-
Help With Wife - Wife has fantasies but is super hesitant to experiment. - Personally I think you might be a little too eager (can't blame you, we all were when we started) and pushing just a little too hard to make her fantasy a reality. Rather than trying to find a way to get around the "Catch 22" of her fantasy maybe just explore it more verbally and see if it evolves into some kind of scenario that she is comfortable with that more easily can happen in the real world.
The most successful swingers we know, ourselves included, arrived at where they are by being open and supportive of each other's fantasies and desires without forcing them in any way. In other words, be patient, explore your fantasies verbally and maybe role play, a LOT, with each other before you jump into anything that either of you isn't quite ready for.
You might be surprised as you fantasize openly and honestly how your fantasies might evolve and become something that you eventually can and will make a reality. You know your wife better than anyone and maybe she does need a little nudge but most of the swingers we've known over the years who've crashed and burned did so because one partner pushed the limits too fast and didn't wait for the more hesitant partner to catch up. In our case we were quite surprised and what our fantasies morphed into when we really dug deep and talked about the truly deviant (by local standards anyway-lol) aspects of our fantasies.
Sorry, I know that's probably not the kind of advice you were hoping for but it's been our observation over a rather lengthy swinging career. Another thought, if you're bound and determined to make your first swinging experience a MFM, is to find a guy who is okay with just watching you two play or maybe getting involved in some soft swinging...i.e. back rubs and or touching but no intercourse. We were soft swap for the first year or two of our swinging life and it was great fun and took the pressure off until we were ready to take the next step. Best of luck!
edit- Sorry about what now seems like a long rambling response. In my defense it was pre-coffee. [em]Emo_79[/em]
Girls that are into DP - How common is this activity among the swingers? - [quote=TOTO73]only done it once, but would love to try it again. any volunteers [/quote]
I would love to volunteer to join you.
Your identity and security may be open. - access to profiles. - hey weguaranteeu where did the fat geek thread go?i wanted to reread it to see all your great spelling but i can not find the thread.did you delete it????????if some one changed your profile why have you left it there for all to see?you could have just as easily printed it or copied it to another page to save for evidence.hell you deleted your pictures.as i said before i do not know of any swinging site that want your ssn so grow up,take the lashing that you deserved for calling all male swingers fat geeks and move on.try to go to your happy place,take a chill pill and just relax.
Phil
Why so much hate in the swingers world... - - Posted By: TPAFUNLUVNCPL2 Reply posted on:
Jan 8, 2008 - 6:10 am
I would like to point out one thing, when you are a single male you and you are straight and you want a couple then you bring nothing to table. You have nothing to offer the husband of the couple aside from a show but you are asking the man of the couple to share his wife with you with nothing more then a thank you in exchange,
in most cases single men have a gf or wife but simply do not want to risk sharing them because they are afraid of losing them, having them leave or know thats what you want to start doing or will be trying to do or they do not want to take the effort and risk and time to get their partner involved.
Maybe that is it. They are seen as takers but not givers. Also the acts of some of their kind is seen as rude and pushy. Say "No Single Males" in the profile but yet they cannot understand that. Maybe that is why they are all lumped into a bad group. No positives, for most people and a few negatives and you have a bad listing.
I don't think so. People have talked about the "risk" factor time and time again. However, what is to say that the partner won't run even if you don't "risk" them?
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