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Poly-Swingers - Moving beyond FWB relationship - I must not understand - I don't understand the problem - you are a 4-some and all happy about it - what is the question?

Vegas Jan 14-16 - Any sugestions on clubs or parties? - vegas can be a realy great experiance. just remember its not all about the strip. the best way to experiance it is to get a rental car.to much to see walking, there are some great shows to see that are free. we saw mat king for just a two drink minamum, and you get to keep the glass. wish we had been swingers when we went out there. we stayed at the luxor and had a great time. had a very sexy blonde try to pick-up mr cpl in the pool. had to take him upstairs to remind him who he was with. enjoy your time out there.

Lying About Your Age? - Is lying about your age considered proper? - I know in our area age is a big thing to some of the swingers. We have always told the truth about our age and update it every year and often we get responce to our messages that they are looking for younger people. So I guess that is a reason some of the people lie about there age.

Skinny Dipping Spots - Where do you go sans clothes for a dip in Nature? - You can also meet up with the local naturist groups. They have naked activities all the time. The UANR group rents the pool of a local dive shop twice a month for general naked swimming/chatting for the first half then water activities/games (volleyball, tag, etc) afterwards. You can follow their group at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/uanr Other groups you can research are Utah Naturists, NudeUtah, FSD, Wasatch Front Naturists, Skinny-Trippers, AANR, TNS, INF, NLI. Just be respectful and remember that they are naturists/nudists and are not swingers.

Equal Treatmeat for all singles - singles - There are a lot of good points that have been made but the reality of it is this, whether you want to believe it or not. Swingers are in this lifestyle for the fun. The majority of swingers are couples and some would even argue that you have to be a couple to be considered a swinger but that's another topic. Swingers are here to connect with others whether for sex or friendship. If it is for sex, it is for the fun of sex to enjoy with other like minded people. Some choose to have this sex with other couples, some choose to have this sex with single males or single females. We all have the right to choose. If we choose not to have sex with single males, it doesn't mean we have some sort of trust or self-confidence issues, it just means it's not what we want to do. Same with couples or single females. Yes, single men are a dime a dozen and that is where the problem lies. There are thousands and thousands of single men who enter this lifestyle and most of them do it because of the sex. They have no understanding of or respect for the lifestyle and so their actions give the ones who do a bad name. So with that said, let's say the percentage of bad single men compared to non is 95%. Now, that doesn't mean there are some bad single women or bad couples. But let's put this into perspective. The number of single women in this lifestyle is a very, very small percentage. Yet, let's say the percent of bad single women compared to non is only 5%. And couples, well, they are already a couple with both a guy and a girl and they are already given a free pass into the lifestyle because, well, they are a couple so we'll leave them out of this equation. So now you have two different seals. The Real Seal and the VIP Seal. They both serve a similar purpose; to show that you have somehow proven that you are a real person or couple. The difference is that the VIP which stands for Validated In Person can only be given out by an admin or local host. And the person holding the VIP is the only person other than an admin or local host that can issue a REAL seal. Make sense? Now, as a single male in that 95%, what do you care most about? Probably getting laid and seeing as many pictures as you can. After trying unsuccessfully to get people to send you pictures or give you access to their private photo albums, you decide to create a fake profile as a single female or couple. What are your chances of creating that profile and getting someone to show you their private collection? Better, but not by much because a lot of couples will not show them to you unless you have a REAL or VIP seal. So it deters them from becoming picture collectors. But wait, if that single male was able to somehow get a VIP seal on his single male profile, he could now validate his own fake profile as REAL and raise his chances of seeing more private albums and faking his way on this site. Now you tell me who is more likely going to fake a profile. A couple? A single female? or a single male? I'll tell you who, it's not going to be a couple or a single female because that is what most people are looking for so why would they need to? It's a sad reality but it's reality. And that is why we have the seals in the first place, otherwise, why would we need them? Now for parties and such, the reason why single females are mostly allowed and single men are not is for similar reasons as mentioned earlier. You have more single guys interested in this lifestyle than single women and it's more likely you would have 100 single men at a party and only a handful of women. As a couple, especially a new couple, that's pretty intimidating and out of those 100 single men, if 95% of them had no respect for the lifestyle, what are the chances that something bad could happen? Even if it was only 20%, the chances of some single male ruining it for the rest is pretty high? Get my point? So that is why you rarely see parties that allow single men. And it really sucks for those singles who are gentlemen. Again, it's a sad reality but it's reality. For all you single men out there who are in this lifestyle for the right reasons, keep doing what you are doing and someone will notice you. There are plenty of people looking for single men but you have to make yourself stand out from the crowd. Be patient and don't try too hard and eventually it will come to you. I hope this sheds a little light on this subject. These percentages may not be exact but it's a close scenario. I've been in this lifestyle for a very long time and some of that was as a single male so I know both sides. It's not being discriminatory, it's what has to be done to protect the main people in this lifestyle and that's the couple. Unfortunately, because of that, the single male gets the short end of the stick. But it has to happen, otherwise you would scare off the majority of couples interested in this lifestyle and without them, you have no one to meet in the first place. You might as well just post an ad on a regular dating site if that was the case.

Cap d'Agde - Has anyone been there? - We were there last year in August for a week and are going back again this year. This is lengthy so I apologize in advance. If you want to know more just DM us privately. It is very unique. Nothing like it anywhere in the world. During holiday (July - September) there can be up to 70,000 people in the village at any time. It feels like half of them are naturalists the other half would be swingers. The village is fenced and you do need to pay for a day pass but it's not expensive. The point is that it's a closed community so everyone is friendly, nice and chill. The village was created years ago as a vacation destination for naturalists but has been taken over by swingers just because swingers spend more money so it has been turned into catering to that crowd. Flying into Montpelier airport is smart and cab rides to the village from the airport is only about 100 Euro from there. There are few hotels but its smarter to book an apartment on booking.com or better yet... a local french apartment booking site. You can also camp (huge camp site) but if your flying in then that is probably a bad idea. We have rented an apartment in heliopolis and this year we rented a house in the neighborhood. It's not cheap so plan on anywhere from 400 to 800 per night. Be prepared for very few American tourists. Mostly french, dutch, germans etc... Everyone is respectful and nice. Most are fine speaking english but that could turn on you quickly if you're not careful and respectful. We really had the feeling that this was a European vacation for Europeans. They aren't expecting the typical American tourist. There are several pool party clubs that are open during the day but are super crowded. These pools are usually indoor/outdoor in a club and its very common to see many people playing in the pool and on the side. It's definitely a huge party. It also costs about 50-100 Euro per couple per day pass. At night there are 4 good swinger clubs in the village. It's about 75 Euro to enter but you get a couple drink passes included. Upstairs is usually bright and good for lounging. Basements have large and complex array of playrooms. People aren't pushy and you have lots of options based on how many people you want to include in your situation. The village has at least 4 grocery stores, multiple bakeries and tons of restaurants, bars, lingerie shops etc. It's amazing to walk around naked during the day and lingerie with heels at night all around the village. You need to wear clothes when you go to bars/restaurants/clubs but can opt to be naked in the grocery store. It's trippy but very freeing. Beach has sections for families, nudists and the last section is for swingers. That section is crazy. Expect a load of single men, impromptu blowbangs/gangbangs and public sex during the day at the beach. People aren't pushy so you shouldn't be worried but it may be wise to not wander back into the dunes. Search for Cap d'Adge in PornHub if you are really curious. Those videos are 100% accurate. European swingers are a bit different. We found the people to be stunning. Beautiful, educated, smart and sexy. But flirting is different in Europe. It's common for someone to not flirt or even make eye contact but then suddenly ask you if you're interested in playing in the playroom. The village is so large that you have to insert yourself if you want to turn it up. We liked walking to the beach during the day, grabbing a salad at the market for lunch then dressing up (think Desire theme night or burning man) at night to go to dinner with a club afterwards. Legit - one of the best european vacations ever. We loved it.

seniors - why is it so difficult to find senior swingers or single ladies? -

KITTYWOO,

I don't think you can generalize people by locale. Political position also has nothing to do with tact. Both Dems and Reps can "mud sling" and both can be vulgar. You can't say that all southern people are well-mannered and cordial, after all they still have the highest levels of open racism in their states, to include forms of self-imposed segregation. We know first hand, we moved from the south to Utah. A year in the South Carolina (An Uber Republican State), we saw racism, like we've never seen it. Does that mean all Southern people are ignorant racists??? No, just as it means that not all are good well mannered, polite individuals. The same applies to the more liberal states. Locale has absolutely nothing to do with it. Thinking like that... generalizing... sterotyping is what breeds hate and intolerance. Using these forums as an example; most people that claim that they are above the mud slinging, name calling or other social taboos, are a regular source of it. They are the first to critisize everyone they interact with, yet pull no punches and often hypocritically violate the rules they try to impose on everyone. I've learned that there are a lot of people here that like to dictate to others what swinging and social interaction should be, yet they do not wish to be generalized or categorized within those confines. Regarding the subject of this thread... I think that if you have an attractive quality a "draw" and there is someone available that is draw to said quality, then you will be successful. We all have factors which attract or repel others. Unfortunately, sometimes this is age. Just as it maybe financial means, material possessions, breast implants, flawless skin, sense of humor or a million other things... We just have to keep our bait out their and someone will bite.


-Don-

Lifestyle friendly camping - - we go to one here in michigan it is a nude swingers camp and no one under 18 can come in we love it there

Game ON....which sign is Hornier...(is that a word?) - zodiac signs of swingers? - Don't discount the Virgo you never know what tricks she has up her sleeves!;) Ms. busymidvale= Virgo Mr. busymidvale= Sagittarius

Interacial Sex - - [quote=SHAZAMER]I have played with guys and gals from every race, color, type of cultural upbringinging, etc. that can be found in Utah. The stereotypes are just silly and stupid. There are hot & not so hot men of every race. What I do find intriguing is that most guys of races other than white, keep themselves physically fit after marriage and take pride in their appearance. This seems to be much more rare in married white men. A shame! Also, seems like white swingers like to smoke. A lot. This is a turn off for me, so I tend to steer clear. xoxoxo Monika[/quote] So does this apply to the gals to or just the guys? We've found that a huge % or swingers smoke not just the pale ones.