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What would you do? - what does a person do when their spouse no longer wishes to paticipate - Well. How amazing that the "couple in question" just happens to be in my home town. And my wife and I are at a serious impasse about the same subject, but in the "traditional direction" i.e. I still want it. She still doesn't. I'm... very surprised that a bunch of Swingers are so unanimous that "No trumps yes": that swinging is just something you do - but are ashamed of enough that any "no" in the group instantly defines the partner's life as well. Why isn't "yes" just as valid? In our case, we've been married for over 25 years. We've had a very-good run. Our children are grown and gone. We're financially comfortable. And we're still physically capable - as we watch our parents be physically unable to walk, hear, see, pee, or do much of anything to enjoy *anything* - the point there being that I hear the clock ticking and to me, this is THE time of life to reap one's reward for the life one has lead - before it's too late to do anything but try to keep breathing. And for me, being honest, the ONE thing that is my reward - is erotic fun. Let me be clear that what I crave is *erotic fun* - not just madly try to find someone new to fuck and never see again - but partners who want to wallow in the erotic experience of "Truth or Dare" and Lifestyle conventions and teasing and games. That's IT for me. That's why "doing it" is called "doing IT". And I've been a great husband/father/responsible citizen for over 50 years. And I feel that there isn't anything else in my life that really gives me a "reason for living". And my wife, bless her, just has never had any passion. She enjoys it when I have sex with her. When I give her a nice massage followed by 3 or 4 orgasms. But she's happy with twice a month or less. And she had no need at all for my "erotic experiences". So here we are. And over the last 10 years we've tried pretty-much every possibility: traditional fidelity, me cheating, us swinging, me swinging alone with her permission... and it always ultimately winds up that the only way she is not *miserable* is if I'm following "traditional fidelity". And the only way I'm not miserable - is if I have the freedom to pursue erotic associations. Now. If my passion were bowling, there wouldn't be a problem. If her passion were gardening or shoe shopping, there wouldn't be a problem. Everybody would just tell us to do our thing without the other - and enjoy what we *do* enjoy together. But somehow sex is THE one that we have to do *together* or not at all. So we're very very seriously trying to figure out if we'd both be happier by tearing up a marriage and going our separate ways. We can all *say* that whoever does NOT want to swing - rules the day, but imagine whatever your very-favorite thing is to do. Then imagine your spouse telling you: "I don't like to do that, so WE won't ever do that and You won't do it without me - and you won't do it alone, either - ever again". Now what?

Sensitivities - a paradox? - I'm actually just as opinionated in life. The only thing that is different here is that I am surrounded by tons of thin-skinned and/or "conservative" swingers, where as in real life, if you will, I don't associate or surround myself with them. If I wish to participate in the forum, I am forced to accept everyone's contribution no matter how contradictory to the activities of the website or what some call "the lifestyle". In real life, I just walk away from the bullshit and not associate with it. I do not surround myself with people that promote sexual freedom and wish to stifle religious freedom or lack thereof or stand for idealogy or dogma that of an oppressor. As far as your study of internet ego, I would love to see this paper. Which doctor of psycology/sociology performed it?? What were the controls and in what environment? I would like to say that there are no "short comings" in my life, I just call bullshit when I see it and there is a ton of thin skinned whiners that I've learned to avoid for the sake of the community and my sanity, as I cannot stand having the same repetitive arguments with the same moronic crowd. In fact I would love to see that study of yours, shoot it to me in an email or post it here for all of us. I have no issues telling someone to fuck off in life either. In fact, I promote standing up for what you believe, regardless of what the mainstream thinks. You can ask anyone who knows me on a personal level that my passions are politics, atheism and libertinism. Hell, ask the Davis County School District how I deal with their religious zealotry, hypocrisy, intolerance of expression and the lack of seperation of church and state in Utah (in the Country for that matter). I do not hide who I am. It is many in this "lifestyle" that hide who they are for fear of persecution... Don't get me wrong though, I do agree with the theory that some people become someone who they are not, when on the internet. I know a ton of "swingers" that put on an act that they are these huge swingers that love to play couple on couple and when you get them two on two, the truth comes out and their only girl-on-girl because either the man is insecure or the woman is a closet lesbian. Either way, I agree with you. There are a lot of fakes. ;) -D- P.S. Now I will admit to puposefully bringing up topics to get shit stirred up. I mean look at this forum as of late. We're right back to talking about the same boring bullshit. NO THANKS!

am back - spliting up sucks - I can see why youde cut off friendship... Not to sound harsh either but staying friends with a split couple you become a middle man. youde usually have to pick just 1 to stay friends with and thats to hard so you have to give up both :( Been seing alot of swingers split up. Some because they got to close to another couple and made the swap long lasting... [quote=COLEH]Old profile was gingerg

Playing with \"swingers\" vs \"nonswingers\" - - Thank you, Thank you, Thank you! We are not \"seasoned\" swingers by any means, and I appreciate more veteran input. I knew my guts were telling me something was not right, and honestly, I now really regret having said anything to him at first. Yes there are plenty of hot swingers here on this site and it wasn\'t that I needed to go outside of it to find action..it was my drunken flirting that got the best of me :p Wont do that again! Thanks again guys!

Sexy Soft Swappers - Looking for like-minded friends for hanging out and house parties - Hi all - Apologies for the slow response on this, we dropped our initial message in this forum and then the holiday craziness hit, and it has taken us a bit to get back to getting this rolling. We also had so many responses here, and sent to us in person, that gave us a lot more things to think about in creating this sort of group. We are glad to see so many other groups be formed because of this thread, and we have been working with Nakedcouple5150 (Jonsie) above to try and figure out the next best steps. Jonsie is 1000% times more organized than us and has really spearheaded getting all the requests together into some sort of manageable form for us to start creating groups and adding people to them. We immediately ran into a few things though: 1 - we have well over 130 requests to be in the initially proposed Kik group, and Kik only accommodates 50 per group. Could we use Swingular or another app to include everyone? Sure - But, we specifically wanted to hold this in Kik, so that is what we have done and will continue to admin. I think there are several folks who have set up other groups via Swingular or other apps because of this thread, and I encourage you to hit them up if you'd like to join one of those that accommodates more than 50 users. 2 - We started this thread so that "soft" swingers who often feel pressured in the larger events or groups would have a space where they felt expectations were already clear, but, of course, there are various levels of what many of us consider "Soft." So...... What we have done is decide create a few different groups to accommodate the requests and also to try and group like-minded, and geographically relative, people together. When either Jonsie or I send you an invite we will ask you to rate your level of "Softness" on a scale of 1-3, using these definitions: [b]"1: enjoy soft only 90-100% of the time (kissing, touching, rubbing, light fingering, no oral with anyone but your partner, no intercourse with anyone but your partner)Expect not to be pressured or invited to partake in oral or intercourse partner swapping in the Kik group or at events organized via the Kik group. 2: soft 50-90% of the time (kissing, touching, rubbing, fingering, oral, no intercourse with anyone but your partner) Expect not to be pressured or invited to partake in any partner swapping in the Kik group or at events organized via the Kik group. 3: soft 10%-50% of the time and okay with swapping intercourse [/b] Using your response, we will try and put you into the group or groups that fit you best. If you want to save us some time, you can also use this Google Sheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1UfKua5zp4tWWcC3OSKQqt2S5lKhm8M9nI4elWrK3EzI/edit?usp=sharing to fill out your preferences. Just remember that if you use this, people may be able to see your email address in the "shared to/accessed to" list. Obviously, no approach to organizing all of this is perfect, and if you aren't down with how we have chosen to try and tackle it, we definitely encourage you to start your own groups/threads. Thanks to all you sexy softies for your interest and patience :)

Seeking mormon swingers - - We will spend the summer in SLC and would love to meet with as many mormon swinger couples and singles as we can. In our experience, married mormon couples are the best swingers ever! They are simply super freaks in bed, ladies like to wear their strap-ons, gentlemen like to wear their sassy schoolgirl outfits, mormon single men give the best head ever and not to forget about mormon single girls who love anal so they remain intact before marriage. We had a single mormon female friend and I swear she'll speak in tongues as my wife, using her trusty strap-on, and myself DP her. Where do mormon swingers hang out? How to we approach a mormon couple about swiging at the temple?

MSNBC Article on Swingers - actually a positive one :) - http://www.today.msnbc.com/id/25851876/

Age - New to the swingers community - is age a factor in how a couple is viewed? - I don't know about an upper limit, but we will not "date" anyone under 21, sorry all you young ones. We feel like if your not old enough to drink, your not old enough to party with us. Legal is legal. T&K

lost with people - florida wanna be swingers - The use of the word "fake" is so subjective that at times it is can be rather difficult to determine what the person who used it actually meant. Here is a for instance: Your reference to your friends list. You hit the proverbial nail right on the head. YOU decided that you had a thing or two in common with the people in question. YOU decided to add them to your friends list. The people you are adding as friends have absolutely no choice in the matter. Some of them may have done the same to you in return, but adding someone to your friends list does not guarantee a meeting, or even correspondence does it? Some of them may not even want to be added to your friends list, imagine that. A lot of misguided people seem to think that the lack of replies indicates that the site is full of fakes! Come on now. Here is the reality of swinging: Forgive MY bluntness, but since we were speaking frankly I thought that it would be good to hear another point of view. 1. There are assholes in every state. Be vigilant, be smart about with whom you share your personal information, and learn from your experiences. Pic collectors, cheaters, people trying to convince others that they are something that they are not...Just remember, those people are most likely horny 15 year old boys posing as others so that they can giggle and jerk off... men and women (thats right, and women too) posing as couples to get dates...the list goes on... We lived in Lake Worth for several years, and I can tell you that there are as many low rent assholes there as there are here in MD. Thats swinging, so get over it. The sooner you do, the less it will irritate you. 2. People dont answer their e-mail. The lack of replies means that you havent made a connection with someone YET, or that they are not interested in you. Maybe they are busy and do not have the time to respond to all of their mail? Thats all. Yes we consider it rude to ignore someone, but trust me, you dont want to to hear back from some of them anyway. Consider it a blessing from whomever you worship and move on! A lot of people lack the basic social skills required to be polite to others, even by e-mail. Unfortunately, thats swinging too...on ANY website...so get over it. The sooner you do, the less it will irritate you. Your profile says you joined on January 30, 2006. If this is accurate then it seems to me that you are fairly new here...if only a few months. Perhaps you should be more patient? Your profile is rather sparse too...give it some attention and let your personality come through in it so that others can better judge if they are truly interested in getting to know you. People also read these forums quite a bit, even if they do not openly participate. The forums are an excellent way to make new friends, but it works both ways. Who wants to meet with someone who is complaining about "fakes" because they did not get a date? Isnt that just like the kid who doesnt get picked for kickball taking his big red ball and going home? It just seems to me that FIRST you should do everything in your power to seem appealing and approachable before you pass judgement about the intentions of others. None of this was meant to offend you, and if I did, then for that I apologize. It just seems to me that your time could be spent more constructively if you intend to meet people that you can see socially on this site. Luvbugs! (mR.) ;)

What is your main lifestyle insecurities? - - I have to agree with Pals4Fun, medical issues can be very frustrating for the person experiencing them. It is one of the main reasons we are lurkers on this site, but not active swingers. I applaud the efforts of anyone that has these kinds of issues and is still willing to put themselves out there to play, and I agree that nobody should look at these types of issues as meaning that the person is not wanting to be there. Now I know that it's a hit to some peoples ego when not every cock in the room stands at attention when they walk in, but unless the person actually tells you verbally, it doesn't mean your not sexy to them, I can be amazingly aroused and horny as hell, but my schlong can still be the floppiest shlort you've ever seen... And no amount of manipulation, medication, or mental masturbation helps the aforementioned situation. This is when my liberal application of my credit card to Amazon's Sexual Wellness Store saves me from humiliation, I grab a tool from my nightstand drawer and the Hitachi Magic Wand and tell the person about to receive that I'm really wanting to experience their full satisfaction first, and I go to town making sure they won't be able to walk or speak a coherent sentence for the next few hours......

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