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Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays! - - Merry Christmas to all on the State-side! (we hail from Ogden, normally) We've met a lot of awesome swingers in Utah and hope to meet even more in the future when we return. XOXO!

Swingers In Uniform - Pay your memorial day respects here. - Mr. Quixote keeps insisting the we don't have a clue. Well Mr. Wizard could ya please clue us in. Let us in on the secret. You seem to know it all. After all, all the support you have seems to suggest that you are the best qualified person to enlighten us all. You haven't even responded to my posts. The best you can come up with is, "You don't have a clue" and you like my dead mother's mouth on your dick. You are a Gas Bag. You are a troll. All you are out to do it offend people so you can bring on the flames. You live a sad existence. You called other's spouses "Hose Beasts". Where the fuck is yours???? Where are your pics? You're looking pretty stupid man. You have no power behind your words. You chastize us for our undying passion for which we stand, yet you fail to tell us where you stand. ANSWER ME! STAND UP LIKE A MAN AND ANSWER! I wonder if you were rejected on here. Maybe some couple on here didn't like that you are a self-proclaimed necrophile. Now, you have made it you personal war to slam everyone one the site because you feel inadequate to the living. You realized maybe that "the living" actually may have a difference in opinion. That maybe Quixote's couch isn't where the world begins and ends. The first clue might be your lack of following here, the second might be the effect your comments have on everyone around you. Would anyone else like to add a third? I am sure you can even you come up with some yourself Mr Q. With all of that being said, maybe you should think hard the next time you decide to challenge the resolove of American Patriotism by thrashing us for giving thanks to those who've sacrificed something you're to feeble minded to understand or appreciate. Damn guys this is like shooting fish in a barrel. It almost makes me feel bad. Almost... Don & Tami

STD/STI Testing - - [quote=ABCWOMAN]No, Toki, you are the Jackwagon! The way you responded to this thread is an obvious display of your lack of intelligence about this issue. Maybemor and others are just attempting to make this lifestyle a little safer for all involved. Not sure if you read much but there was a situation recently in Kansas City where a man and his wife were HIV Positive and managed to put a number of people at risk of contracting HIV, and these are supposedly "swingers" who know better. I've been to parties for over 4 years!! Not everyone uses condoms. Maybe you do! But even a condom isn't going to protect you against Herpes!! You always use latex with oral sex Toki.. hmm... probably not.. and guess what, you are putting yourself at risk for Herpes! Even if you get tested for Herpes you still are at risk. You could have contracted it on the weekend, go in on Monday get tested, the whole gamut of tests, get negatives on everything. Then two to three weeks later you come down with itchy bumps that turn into sores, oh shit, guess what.. yep.. you just were infected and are now positive for Herpes.. Why.. because you don't get it!!! The reason we need more people to talk about this is people are getting STD's on this site and others like it. I applaud Rob and his willingness to do what some of you may think is not needed. Toki is a prime example of why you don't play with just anyone! Sure you can't stop everything all the time, and frankly anytime you have sex with multiple partners it's a risk. But let's not be stupid folks, let's be careful. You only have this life to live, why fuck it up for yourself and the one you love because you are stupid? PS.. I wrote a long post a few months ago about our own experience with the STD issue. I received a number of posts about others who carry HSV2. Interesting thing is some of these people who have HSV2, DO NOT always tell their potential partners they have the disease. Why? PURE IGNORANCE or just they don't give a shit (which is worse). I want to make sure everyone knows, this is MR ABC who is writing this post.[/quote] Again, the voice of reason. (((K))) Do we need to remind people that if they don't want to read about a subject on the forum they do not have to click on it? But in the meantime, until all potential risks from having sex are wiped out, reminders to get tested, practice safe sex, and having open dialogues are not going anywhere. If it reading about hits a nerve perhaps you seriously need to ask yourself WHY. And then GET THE FUCK OVER YOURSELF. Kudos to MM for posting this. xox Tammy

Swinging 4ever??? - - As you can tell I am trying to get some more topics going other then the ones about FUCKHERIDID. NOt at all that I think they were bad posts..they were interesting, informative and glad we all know about the prick! It is time however, to talk bout something else. So, we wanna also know (along with our other forums we started today) do all you swingers picture yourselves doing this lifestyle till the day you die?? Or, do you think that there will be a time that you will be done. Is this just a phase your marriage is going thru, or is it something that you enjoy and will keep doing as long as you both can. What makes you wanna do this lifestyle....what drew you to it in the first place? What keeps you coming back for more? Is one of you in to it more so then your partner? Have you ever decided that you were done, but found yourself right back at it? Share your stories!!!

Looking for fun in Plano, Texas 3-27 to 4-11! - - From Plano, you should check out the Iniquity swingers club, you'l like the view from the San Souci swingers club, and if you want a good place to eat exotic food, try campo verde in Arlington, they offer buffalo, rattle snake, just for starters. There are many places to see, and lots to do in your spare time. I spent 8 yrs in the DFW area, but I'm in Arkansas with my mother right now, I just spent the last 7 months of dads life living with them, his alzheimers had gotten bad enough mom needed my help. We lost him Feb 2 08 during surgery to repair a large aneyurism. Have fun in Plano! If you ride, maybe we can do that sometime. Iron

pROFILE pICTURES - Male Parts - From: FLATLANDER Subject: No subject Date: February 21, 2008 (9:28 PM) No Photo go to my space or some other site if you want a chat line. my god,it says swingers not your good buddy network. _________________________________________________________________________________ He didnt have the balls to post this for everybody to see, so I thought I would help him out.

Hey - - Okay...the lack of compassion and depravity that others have never ceases to amaze me. Not five minutes after posting my reply...here is the private email I got from "someone" who had previously posted on this thread...a.k.a. UTCPL... Thought, You should get on a plane and go fuck this poor sap. In case you have not realized it yet this is a swingers sight not Dr. Phil's show. Maybe one or the both of you are the ones that need a good ass-fucking. It just might loosen up that tight sphincter you apparently have! Your true character is really shining at at it's best this weekend UTCPL. Any more methods you might employ to make proverbial asses out of yourselves? Maybe I need to get some popcorn and kick back to watch the ensuing show, eh?

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KUTV News Story on Swingers - News - [quote=DELICIOUSLYWET][quote=CHEFFETTE][quote=DELICIOUSLYWET]Gasp! Tens of thousands of swingers here in Utah. I believe Utah now has a slightly higher-than-average divorce rate. The national divorce rate is 3.4% with Utah slightly higher at 3.6%. The percent of divorced residents in Utah is reported as 9.3% which is the 18th lowest in the nation. Don't ask me how those numbers reconcile. It has something to do with immigration into the state I am guessing. New Jersey reports that 8.5% of it's residents are divorced and that is the lowest in the nation. Well what do you think? Did more than 3.6% of all the swinger couples, that you have met end up getting a divorce? Was it over swinging? Are more than 9.3% of the swingers population divorced? This would include all the singles now swinging that were once married. One woman telling the media how swinging ended her marriage is anecdotal at best. Do I believe she is telling the truth? Yes I do. Do I personally believe swinging ads an extra element of jeopardy to a marriage? Yes I do. Do I believe there are quite a few people that would be happier staying away from the swinging lifestyle? Yes I do. Never-the-less, most of the couples, we have personally met, that are swingers seem to enjoy swinging and frankly enjoy doing it together. Do I believe there are quite a few couples who will enjoy swinging? Yes I do, we certainly have enjoyed the lifestyle experience as do a lot of swinging couples we have met. In the end if you are a married couple you have to make the decision based on the two of you, as to whether or not swinging is a good thing in your lives individually and as a couple. As for statistical models as to the divorce rate within the community of swingers well there aren't any. This isn't really a news story it's sensationalist journalism designed to attract viewers. Anyway, the divorce rate has been going down since the 1980s and swinging has been on the rise since the 1980s so you could make an analogy that swinging is saving marriage. Yes it would be a bunch of anecdotal bull shit just like this story. [/quote] Right. And swinging doesn't end a marriage anymore than cheating or lying or alcohol abuse or drugs, etc; people end marriages. Any relationship is an invention solely created by those people involved and only they have power over its progress forward. Will swinging or discussions about it lead to problems between people in relationships? Potentially. But any attempt by the anonymous lady in the story to blame swinging for anything is an attempt on her part to avoid accountability. You can't blame the alcohol itself for the drunk. PS, NJ may have a lower divorce rate b/c it's one of the few states that still grants annulment instead of divorce in certain cases.[/quote] And I thought it was all that Frankie Valli music and strolls along the Jersey Shore that rekindled the romance in Jersey nuptials. [/quote] "Oh Frankie, it's so magical when we go down the shore and watch the waves bring medical waste in!"

Interacial Sex - - [quote=SHAZAMER]I have played with guys and gals from every race, color, type of cultural upbringinging, etc. that can be found in Utah. The stereotypes are just silly and stupid. There are hot & not so hot men of every race. What I do find intriguing is that most guys of races other than white, keep themselves physically fit after marriage and take pride in their appearance. This seems to be much more rare in married white men. A shame! Also, seems like white swingers like to smoke. A lot. This is a turn off for me, so I tend to steer clear. xoxoxo Monika[/quote] So does this apply to the gals to or just the guys? We've found that a huge % or swingers smoke not just the pale ones.