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Messages - why don't people want to message back - 1. All the sites are crawling with fake couple profiles that are pic collectors or guys trying to cheat.
2. People here have the idea of dabbling but are not serious about it.
3. People have their ideal encounter in their head and are only looking for that exact situation.
4. People are simply lazy. They wanna push a button (like the FR one) and let you do all the work.
5. People totally content with swinging are already in an established party or meet group and have people come to them now. They are tons of fun, experienced swingers that know how to balance normal life and swinging life.
So we always tell newbs there is a huge learning curve to this lifestyle. No, it’s not the sex part, we all already do that, it’s the ability to sort through the mess and find connections. Living where you do makes it even harder. Try some other sites to see if they fit better. AFF usually has a good listing in your area. Try posting up something when you have free time and see what comes your way. Don’t jump at every friend request. Our experience over 4 years is the blind ones with no message lead no where.
We use the sites for first contact, then k!k (you can live pic verify there) and chat to see if it’s a match. Remember it’s a frustrating road ahead. Even after getting to full chat and meeting time, we really only meet 5% of the people we talk to, and we are super flexible and drive many miles to meet and play. Just keep at it. We are to the point now we can spot most flakes, cheaters and collectors quickly and we block and move on. When you do finally meet just be open. Network, be friends, that can lead to parties or new friends. Start looking to just meet cool fucking people and learn from there.
LDS Swingers Survey - Will any former/active LDS swingers take my survey? - Yeah, you might also want to ask if you have rules about who you play with. And maybe another section: Are you LDS and using this to cheat on your spouse?
A Place In The Lifestyle - - Which club, and where?
Sadly this sounds a lot like Caliente, which isn't a swingers club but does host swinger parties pretty much every Saturday night. It also sounds like Miami Velvet, which is mostly mainstream people who just want to say they are swingers and pretend.
And no, I don't think most of them have any place at actual lifestyle clubs. While some do say up front they are not swingers a much larger portion will claim to be swingers so they can be seen as more of the "in crowd".
Lifestyle Questions by newcomer couple - - I WANTED TO WELCUM U TO THE SWINGERS LIFE STYLE . AND I HOPE U GET TO EXPLORE AND MEET LOTS OF NEW FRIENDS AND U HAVE LOTS OF FUN .I PULLED UP YOUR PROFILE AND IT SAYS FULL SWAP . WHICH IS GOING TO GIVE COUPLES THE WRONG IDEA . AND THERE IS ALOT OF COUPLES LOOKING JUST FOR GIRL ON GIRL ACTION . AND SOME COUPLES ARE FREE TO EXPLORE ALONE SO I WOULDNT JUST RULE OUT ALL COUPLES . I WOULD LOOK ON DIFFERENT SITES AND SEE IF U CAN FIND THAT SINGLE FEMALE EVERYBODY IS LOOKING FOR . OR TRY A ALL GIRLS WEBSITE . BUT THEN THEY MIGHT NOT WANT TO PLAY WITH THE HUBBY .GOING TO PARTIES AND CLUBS IS THE BEST WAY TO FIND MORE PEOPLE . AT THE CLUBS THERE IS ALL DIFFERENT KINDS OF PEOPLE LOOKING FOR DIFFERENT THINGS . AND THE MORE PEOPLE U KNOW THE BETTER YOUR CHANCES ARE TO FIND WHAT U ARE LOOKING FOR . CAUSE EVEN IF U CANT FIND THE ONE AT THE CLUB THEN AT LEAST THEY MIGHT KNOW A FRIEND FOR YA ..
WE GO TO PLEASURE PALACE ON SAT NIGHTS . THERE IS ALWAYS ALOT OF DIFFERENT PEOPLE LOOKING FOR DIFFERENT THINGS . EVEN THOUGH THE SINGLE FEMALE IS HARD TO FIND IN THE LIFE STYLE WE DO SEE SOME THERE . OUR CLUB HAS STRICK RULES ABOUT HOW PEOPLE BEHAVE . SO EVEN IF U JUST WANTED TO COME AND HANG OUT AND MEET NEW FRIENDS OR DO YOUR OWN THING . THERE IS ALOT OF PEOPLE LIKE THAT ALSO THERE . NORMALLY THE BIG PARTIES BRING IN ABOUT 600-700 PEOPLE SO IAM SURE U CAN MAKE SOME NEW FRIENDS . WE ARE DOING A PHOTO SHOOT WITH FIFI THIS SAT NIGHT . AND THERE IS GOING TO BE ALOT OF SWINGERS GROUPS . AND WCCC WILL ALSO BE THERE . SO IF U WANT TO COME AND MEET SOMENEW FRIEND SLET US KNOW
AND U HAVE NO PICS UP . I THINK IT WOULD HELP OUT ALOT IF U ADDED SOME PICS OF YALL . EVEN IF U CANT SHOW YOUR FACE . THERE IS MANY WAYS TO COVER YOUR FACE . BUT STILL SHOW THE PEOPLE WHAT U LOOK LIKE . PICS HELP OUT ALOT . IF U NEED HELP WITH PICS LET ME KNOW . I TAKE PICS AND WORK ON THEM . BUT ANY KIDA OF PICS IS BETTER THEN NONE .
NAUGHTY DREAMS
FREAKY KITTY
Lifestyle Stats - - Ok, so you mentioned how many swingers would be at the great RES, but what about at Levell Edwards stadium? ;)
Single females profile... "but not" - - At the risk of taking this even further off topic...I look at honesty the same way I look at sin (not that I believe in the concept of sin). Observing and talking to my neighbors I've discovered that the majority have little "pet" sins that they unilaterally seem to deem more important to avoid than other sins. Some of my neighbors would never consider shopping on Sunday but don't have a problem working in their yards in rather skimpy (for them) attire during the summer. Others seem adamant that church attendance is more than mandatory but have no problem hitting Chuck A Rama after church. Still others are devout temple goers yet have confided that they have a single glass of champagne on New Years Eve. Honesty, to me, appears very similar. I know many swingers who are less than honest about their weight and/or age yet really seem to get upset if someone is less than honest about their relationship status. Still others state they are disease and drug free and demand the same in others yet I've seen them with cold sores (yup that's HSV people) and regularly partake in pot or use illegally obtained erection enhancing drugs. Honesty, like many things in life, is apparently quite flexible and indeed seems to be a matter of perspective.
ps- Not bashing, insinuating or otherwise making any kind of judgment about the OP's or anyone else in this thread. Just some general observations.
Whats good for the goose is good for the gander... - - Our experience has been that swinger in general seem to be nicer and more open than their prudish cousins. However we must remember that swingers are still a cross section of society and we all know that society in general is well stocked with assholes and unfortunately some will spill over into the lifestyle. All we can do is ignore them and hope they disappear quickly.
Bob
Traveling to New Orleans - Wondering where to go to meet swingers - http://www.coletteneworleans.com/index.html
Hands down wild. Huge place with cool rooms and features that make ya go mmmm wow never thought of that. Bring your on bottle, they will server it to ya. They are not cheap to get into, but well worth it. I was there my last night in town, and was like man, wish I had spent my week here. When I first got there it was dead, and man did it ever pick up later. Very professional structured etc.
Am headed to Atlanta, wonder if there is anything like the colette there
KSL swing story - - YAY!
I'm actually excited to see this "expose"...I find it quite funny that there is so much hype surrounding it, actually. Does anyone really pay that much attention to the news anyway?
I sincerly doubt that I will go to work tomorrow and hear someone say "Dude, did you see that story about Swingers last night?"
Hey Recon - how come we haven't swapped bikes yet? My BMX for your Harley...
A&K
Black Ring, Right Hand - How to tell if someone's a swinger - [quote=jv666playful]Okay if we a set what is the best way to confirm that the others swing also or should we have a secret language as well[/quote]
Unfortunately, there's no good answer to this.. you'll have to go out on a limb at some point...
However, if you see a couple out, together, BOTH wearing black rings on the right hand, it's pretty much a given.
If you're TOO coy about it, their first instinct will be to deny.. I'd just come right out and ask.. "Hey, love the black rings.. are you guys swingers?"
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