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Single male in this lifestyle.. - I have questions for couples and single females. - [quote]why is it that girls and couples look for girls more than guys?[/quote]
So you're asking why do swingers prefer MFF instead of MMF?
Because most women in the life-style are bi-sexual to varying degrees, and most men are not. Not even a little bit. Thus, MFF becomes the "third wheel" combination that most swinger couples can enjoy together. (Versus MMF, which is really more just about pleasing the female).
Why is is to hard for a single-male to find a couple to play with? Well, see above.. most couples don't want MMF... and those that DO want MMF have about 10,000 of you to choose from. Supply and demand.
This isn't that complex.
why is it ! - - I think it's all or mostly about perspective, physical perspective. We get to see them having sex from a totally different angle. When we are involved we can't see the whole picture (or is that hole picture). We are also, caught up in the in the event as well. So when we see them in the throws of passion (since I'm such an illiterate schmuck, the word fucking would suffice) we have a different view and a different "perspective". If we are also, and at the sme time engaged with the guy's wife we may also get that little feeling of naughtiness added to the voyeuristic sense we experience. If we are truely swingers we have grown beyond the urge to pounce upon the other fellow since we conscienously, both husband and wife conscented and made the decission to have sex with others and placed jealousy in a trunk somewhere. So I really think it is a different perspective than we get when we have sex with them.
single males - - Thank you for opening the topic. I hope that it will be used shed some insight and not just complain.
In a place like Habits there are vanilla singles that have no clue that swingers congregate there. So there will naturally be more problem in that environment than a private party.
At a house party the only people that should be there are those that are invited by the host and hostess. Every one of the guests should have known the rules or etiquette of this lifestyle. If you had complaints, they should have been addressed last night with the hosts. Evidently the balance you were looking for was not there.
Sadly it is difficult for most singles to figure out how to talk to a swinging couple. There are no schools or training centers to teach this. As a single male, conversation at a vanilla party with a couple is much easier. Most often the men and women separate and we talk with one or the other without expectations on either side. Sometimes conversation is just conversation.
I find that making friends is generally more difficult in this lifestyle because of the sexual expectations of many. I think that you will find a number of the single men, after getting the cold shoulder from many husbands, find it easier to attempt to talk to the women because they lack the skills to talk with both. It is a mistake but it is also part of the learning process.
There is no excuse for rude behavior on the part of the single male but neither is there an excuse for the typical married male attitude. Single males are always and have always been a pariah and dam few couples want them at any party. I came into this lifestyle as a single male looking to make male friends to hang with that would help me understand the rules. I found most of the males were cold and suspicious and difficult to talk with.
I was not looking for women to play with nearly as much as I was looking for a girlfriend that was already in the lifestyle. But I am sure that as far as most were concerned all I wanted to find was their wife
real members? - - CYBER SWINGERS strike again! We had the same thing happen to us although we only drove 2 hrs this cpl must have exchanged 40 messages with us over a 3 month period they were so excited to meet us in person we showed they didn't! They were supposeably traveling to Florida on vacation we called them on the cell only got a voice mail and never heard from them again! We wish people would just be HONEST when we say we willbe someplace for a meeting we are there or we call before hand to say something has come up never leave a cpl wondering. its a fact of life in this lifestyle we simply try to make the best of it like that night we sat there enjoyed a drink and watched this beautiful blond sing and play the piano then we simply drove home and laughed and said "NEXT"! We have learned to not take the lifestyle too serious its ashame some people continue to play these petty mindgames but we know its a fact in this lifestyle. Ever want to visit North Florida look us up we WILL show up.
Norm&Sharon
Why so much hate in the swingers world... - - **Why must you constantly mock people? Why are you feeling so worthless in life.
Suicide is a viable option for you.
And you are right, I do not know you. I could not associate with a person who feels no self worth other than by being a bully.
I do indeed feel so sorry for you.
Can I loan you a rope or something? **
Jesus Christ, that's a horrid thing to say to anyone- even someone you may dislike!
*makes mental note of pictures so I know who to avoid at future get togethers*
Why so much hate in the swingers world... - - "Ya know.. you are so "FUCKING STUPID" and in my opinion a fucking coward, asshole, moron, scumbag,racist sexist pig fucking ,deserting, lowlife worthless piece of shit.."
Uh, you don't even know me. LOL!
"Wow so that's what it feels like to be on your mentality level? And I use the word kindley.
And once again asshole, you proved my point! You are so uneducated and have no self worth that you must attack personally."
Kindley??? Oh you mean Kindly!
"Seems I read someplace.. now I am not saying this is true, that such anger could be THE SIGNS OF A CHILD ABUSER AND WIFE BEATER..or a victim of abuse..,can't remember where I read that. Remember you told me in previous post.. old.. fat..no memory. "
Wow, thanks for that Doctor Phil.
""YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE A CLUE WHEN YOU ARE BEING BAITED.
YOU ARE NO FUN ANYMORE.
I don't like you any more. "
I knew you were addressing me dummy. LOL! It's you that was baited, you that got personal with me. HAHAHAHA! Oh, and I never liked you.
;-)
-D-
P.S.
Why so much hate in the swingers world... - - I would like to point out one thing, when you are a single male you and you are straight and you want a couple then you bring nothing to table. You have nothing to offer the husband of the couple aside from a show but you are asking the man of the couple to share his wife with you with nothing more then a thank you in exchange, in most cases single men have a gf or wife but simply do not want to risk sharing them because they are afraid of losing them, having them leave or know thats what you want to start doing or will be trying to do or they do not want to take the effort and risk and time to get their partner involved.
There is also the point that alot of people have fetish's but I do not know alot of white couples that are interested in black men, not every woman like a cock over 8" either, there are some but we have not met very many and it seems to be a very select group and type of swinger. We have had single men in the past but those single men had the highest respect for our relationship, they also did not get anything right away and had to show their merit as a sincere person that wanted friendship but no emotional attachment. In this day and age of disease we also are very selective with the people we swing with for obvious reasons.
As a final note, if and when you find a female partner and she lives with you in a commited relationship if you are already not in one will you be willing to share her with another man with nothing in return? Ill be willing to bet like most couples you will seek only a single female to join you in a threeway.
what the f#%@ was he thinking? - swingers still deserve respect - Well, ya gotta admit your wife has a FINE ass so I can see what set this perv off ...but yeah, that's fucked up!
Evil
Vegas next weekend - Clubs - Our favorite is Whispers. We've had a lot of fun at Swingers Party Club too! It's just around the corner from Whispers.
Swingers Party - Doesnt mean who ever is there is open to everyone elsa - Just because you fall down on your bicycle doesn't mean you quit riding it :-)
-D-
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