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Observations from the other side of the room - How to enjoy the lifestyle as a single male - I am not the expert, but I believe that the amount of time that I have been in the lifestyle and the friends I have made gives me some sense of how to have the best time I have debated whether to write this but I think that those single men who read will benefit. SWINGULAR is an adult dating site, advertised as a swingers hub. Most men who join are well idiots at first. I have received countless questions from other guys about my "luck". Luck has nothing to do with it. The Swingers lifestyle or non monagamous lifestyle isn't new, but many members are. Here are some basic things that will enable you to enjoy the experience. Single men are not unique. It doesn't matter how hot you think you are or how big your cock is, if you are an ass, just stay at the bar. Single women and couples are who we, assuming heterosexual and even bisexual men, are interested in meeting. Remember guys, asking if the person is down to fuck isn't going to work. I am not the expert, but I have been in the lifestyle for six years and met a number of couples and single women. My advice is to make friends. Even plutonic friends who invite you to parties and outings will ensure that you meet people who you have chemistry with. Find a 'sponsor ' so to speak. Word of mouth is more valuable than a testimonial on your profile. Don't try hiding what you say to the wife from the husband. My rule of thumb is that when I am taking to the wife, I assume everything will be seen by both. Basically if you don't want the husband to see something, don't write it. This is a short list of things and by no means authoritative, but it has helped me to enjoy the experience.

Is it a “preference” or is it “ discrimination” - - [quote=massageBBCguy][quote=VANESSA_BABY][quote=massageBBCguy]Omg.. seriously? Ok. I am really getting tired of all this.. if you don’t then you are a racist. Ok swingers and single.. let’s push Congress to re-amend the 1964 Civil rights act to create a new cause of action “Failure to fuck a minority” and create a federal regulation requiring members to post “I am an Equal Opportunity Swinger”.. I hope this helps. Ugh...[/quote] I’m not saying because they are not getting fucked I get plenty fucked. I think you mis understood me.[/quote]Cause of Action is the reason for a lawsuit.. well here ——-A cause of action, in law, is a set of facts sufficient to justify a right to sue to obtain money, property, or the enforcement of a right against another part—— “Failure to fuck” doesn’t really mean you are not getting plenty of sex.. it means for example.. “Failure to hire” against a white employer.. a “failure to fuck” against white swinger. I hope that helps.[/quote] It’s funny cause you have hit me up a couple of times

lost with people - florida wanna be swingers - WE seem to have the same problem. We live in country so we thought that had alot to do with it, not very many people close. But you are in city, He used to live there and knows area well. Our guess would have to be that not many people want to meet in person, just want to stay in cyber world. Well good luck!

Identifying Swingers! - Lots of talk and now some action! :) - We like what you are doing and agree that it does not stand out like something we tried before. We are curious to see what the new items will look like. Is there a way to get on a mailing list for your site? We tried wearing a pin that was given to us from another site and forgot to take it off my jacket at the end of the night. The next time I wore the jacket we were with family and they wanted to know what the initials in bright colors stood for. In a pinch I replied it stands for the "safe drivers club ". Then my mother in law wanted to join but I further explained it was for us that drag raced and went a certain time with no accidents. So I invited her to drag race and earn her own pin but she declined. And that is why we would appreciate a more subtle way of letting others know about our lifestyle choices. Please keep us informed. Joe and Lori

Bogeys Nightclub in Clearfield - A Habits style club for northern swingers? - We agree, a lifestyle friendly hangout in Davis county would be awesome! I know there are a lot of people up this way in the lifestyle that could use a place to meet others in a casual setting. I remember when Bogey's was packed every Friday and Saturday night, but now it is empty. Sounds like a great opportunity to "take over" the scene. Anyone interested?

Massages - She need massages - [quote=midcrisis]in our minds we are all better then the pros....just ask us.[/quote] I would even go out on a limb here and suggest that some swingers might give BETTER massages than an experienced LMT...at least as far as rubbing parts that a masseuse is legally prohibited from touching. Since I sincerely doubt they cover the fine art of erotic massage (especially with a happy ending) in LMT school, someone who has been a swinger for a certain amount of time would likely be more adept and/or experienced in that particular 'sub-specialty' of massage. [em]Emo_49[/em]

can we swing and still not be in sin ? - - Since I've been sucked into the swirling vortex of this thread, the only way I can feel like I haven't been robbed of the last 1/2 hr (give or take) of my life is to add my .02 Ok, I know I could just chalk it up to that which doesn't kill me only makes me stronger, but adding my input seems more satisfying. I'll start off by saying that if you are doing this much research regarding religions and what they allow or don't allow regarding sexual activity it has to make me wonder if you're seriously considering converting to another religion just to save yourself the guilt of sin brought upon by whatever religion you happen to be at the moment. All religions have been formed and molded over the years by people. People who are not perfect, who have their own agendas. A sense of right and wrong doesn't come solely from religion. Many religions would like you to think that in an attempt to keep you in their camp and they'll be more than happy to tell you what is right and wrong for the rest of your life (in case you can't think for yourself). But if you have to switch religions just so that you can sleep at night after a fun-filled evening of swinging, you have some other things to figure out. Or perhaps you should just start you're own religion, where you can make all the rules. In any case, I think its fairly safe to say that most religions believe quite strongly that those of us engaging in the swinging lifestyle are sinning by engaging in immoral activities, just cuz they don't use the actual word sin, doesn't mean anything. Its just more politically correct these days to say immoral. In any case though, they most certainly believe that we (swingers) will most definitely be going to a very special level of hell, a level reserved for... (sorry, narrowly avoided an obsure pop culture reference) As for me, yes I believe there is a God. And one of the few things that I think is accurately stated repeatedly in the bible is to love thy neighbor and I'm more than happy to spread the love around in whatever way/shape is available to me. -SG

Sensitivities - a paradox? - I'm actually just as opinionated in life. The only thing that is different here is that I am surrounded by tons of thin-skinned and/or "conservative" swingers, where as in real life, if you will, I don't associate or surround myself with them. If I wish to participate in the forum, I am forced to accept everyone's contribution no matter how contradictory to the activities of the website or what some call "the lifestyle". In real life, I just walk away from the bullshit and not associate with it. I do not surround myself with people that promote sexual freedom and wish to stifle religious freedom or lack thereof or stand for idealogy or dogma that of an oppressor. As far as your study of internet ego, I would love to see this paper. Which doctor of psycology/sociology performed it?? What were the controls and in what environment? I would like to say that there are no "short comings" in my life, I just call bullshit when I see it and there is a ton of thin skinned whiners that I've learned to avoid for the sake of the community and my sanity, as I cannot stand having the same repetitive arguments with the same moronic crowd. In fact I would love to see that study of yours, shoot it to me in an email or post it here for all of us. I have no issues telling someone to fuck off in life either. In fact, I promote standing up for what you believe, regardless of what the mainstream thinks. You can ask anyone who knows me on a personal level that my passions are politics, atheism and libertinism. Hell, ask the Davis County School District how I deal with their religious zealotry, hypocrisy, intolerance of expression and the lack of seperation of church and state in Utah (in the Country for that matter). I do not hide who I am. It is many in this "lifestyle" that hide who they are for fear of persecution... Don't get me wrong though, I do agree with the theory that some people become someone who they are not, when on the internet. I know a ton of "swingers" that put on an act that they are these huge swingers that love to play couple on couple and when you get them two on two, the truth comes out and their only girl-on-girl because either the man is insecure or the woman is a closet lesbian. Either way, I agree with you. There are a lot of fakes. ;) -D- P.S. Now I will admit to puposefully bringing up topics to get shit stirred up. I mean look at this forum as of late. We're right back to talking about the same boring bullshit. NO THANKS!

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