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Appropriate Parameters of Sexual Conduct in Modern Society - Should sex still have a unique status or just be another hobby? - Beard, You did open something up but I'm not sure what.
I had to copy and paste your original here so I didn't miss or get too confused..
One of your last points first: Moral refers to standards as defined by the church, the government or your neighbors(in light of the Supreme Court decission a few years ago about porn) Ethics, on the other hand are something that we define for ourselves based on our upbringing/environment and values that we have defined based on whatever we base them on.
You are right that marriage is a concept designed by religion and the government for the care of offspring and the clear definition of linage for property rights. You use the term marriage, which is a legal term like it is a moral imperative then ask if it should be based on some one or group of common interrests. Then the next breath you suggest that marriage is supposed to be more than any of that and something to do with sharing and intimacy. Finally you go back to somehow trying to make a point, (I'm not sure what that point was) that maybe there should be a conglomerate of reasons for marriage then with the nesxt breath you ask if sex should be forbidden..
Now lets see if this makes any sense to anyone. I'm poly and We swing. I have a lover who is married and her husband knows or us(he is not poly) and B knows of us and we are all good friends. We are, my lover and I, intimate both emotionally and sexually and both non poly mates knowof this. B and I are very much soulmates but then my lover is also very close to that as well. I do not wish to take her away from her husband and I do not wish to replace B. She does not want to replace her husband with me and we are alll OK with that arrangement.
In my heart of heart I am married to both in a very intimate way although I do not wish to procreate with anyone anymore. She feels the same way toward me. I would submit that marriage is an intimate, emotional and sometimes physical union of people.. I did not say two people I said people. We have been taught sex as a negative thing and relationships with more than one as a negative thing because we cannot love more than one person or more than one at any one time... I submit that we can love more than one and that the more we love the more we get back from that...
Swinging is started off as fun between close friends and sometimes the term wife swapping became a reality.... Sex is fun adn swinging is about sex and today alot of times about relationships. Relationships in my opinion are for the benefit of everyone involved... .
So I'm not sure if I understood where you were going but this is my take on the propositions as I understood them.
Depending on any person's opinion or preferences sex and love can be the same or they can be separate or they can be coincidental but it's basically up to that person or couple to make that determination....
We, in the lifestyle, may ultimately be right and marriage may change to a more contractual thing rather than some sacrosanct BS that it has become.... Swingers as a group have more than 3.4 time greater chance of remaining married than that of non swingers. The range of failed marriages is between 66 and 77% in all first and second marriages and some 70% of all married people cheat on their mates. Swinger have a better than 85% chance of marriage survival. Cheating is not exempt in Swinging but I think is is greatly reduced...
I think as swingers we have sex with friends and it can be just that or it can be more... at least for me..
Gloryhole - Any glory holes in northern utah? - You should go on two for one single male night. All ladies get their choice of any two single dudes and all the condoms they can eat...er I mean use. And any accompanying hubby gets a free commemorative blindfold and bottomless Diet Coke laced with saltpeter. [em]Emo_67[/em]
But seriously...swingers who've never been to Habits?!!? That's like a Mormon who's never been to Wendover. A Muslim who's never been to Mecca. A stripper who's never gotten pole burns. A fire hydrant that's never been peed on. Boobies that have never been to Victoria's Secret! [em]Emo_84[/em]
Island Park - Snowmobiling - We have had a couple of people interested but no commitments. Its a quick cheap getaway for all you snowmobiler swingers out there. Let us know
Thanks Dave
Game for Swingers - Has anyone heard of a new game for lifestyle couples called Titillation? - We are looking for feedback from swingers who have played Titillation (www.titillationgame.com).
Curious Devil - Political Science Project - Jared, I'm only arguing because his post was directed at me. I am obliging them. LOL! It passes the time. LOL! The spokesman for Florida Swingers is saying swingular doesn't put out in Florida, even though the forum participation from the area doesn't agree. Just calling bullshit. LOL!
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Bikers and Babes Party Plans are final . - Sat Oct 14th Club Tastebuds in Orlando. - Hey guys great question. We will do cars in a pack and Bikes in a Pack all with the same route pre planned the week of . We would like to do it with some cool stops. Like an Adult Toy store and Maybe a Wing House or Hooters and or poss a nice Park. This way if some get separated from others it will not be long be for all are hooked up again. Can Take time to shoot the shit a bit and enjoy the social fun of it.
Then head Back to Tastebuds hotel The Heritage Inn Hang by the pool clean up Cars and Bikes for the Hot Car and Bike Contest. As long as we have the #s for the ride and the Contest we will do them.Need to get some partisapation for this type of event.
We deff will be doing the indoor Poker run and the Wet T Shirt Contest But we sure could use some of you guys mailing and posting up. As of Now 3 Cars are in and 8 Bikes. We plan to ride reguardless and hang by the pool if its just a small quaint group thats cool.
The Fun will realy get Kicked up that night.
We have worked hard on this event and enjoy trying to put on and host a party for Tastebuds from time to time. We hope those of you that have come in the past when we were involved with a party will enjoy this one and bring a few new faces with you.
We would like to take a second to thank Club Tastebuds for allowing us to do the paries we have and are doing like this one. Please note to all even with the added expence the Club does not raise any prices.
We are an average cpl who just want our friends and those we would like to get to know and their friends to just have a great night out. We all work hard and if we can have a blast and others can as well from a little planning and a bit of hard work . Hell we all win.
We hope you guys and all you Swingular Swingers will come out for this Party. Please bring a friend and spead the word.
Thanks Traci and Pat
UTAH - Best Clubs - - Hey all you fun Utah people and those who have visited Salt Lake City. Where are your favorite clubs to party or just enjoy some dancing and a nice drink? With or without other swingers. Where does everyone go when there are no parties happening. Let us know.......
Know any Mormon swingers in SoCal? - Single girl in SoCal wants to know! - [quote=BJ2002]Reddit. /r/MormonsGW[/quote]
LOL! Thought for many years "Mormons Gone Wild" would be a riot to film in Provo :)
Sex vs. Guilt - Atheists have 'better sex lives than followers of religion who are plagued with guilt' - Guess I'm a Son of Perdition (pretty tame compared to other things I've been called). Coming soon to a theater near you. "The Sons of Perdition meet The Sons of Anarchy". We should totally start a drive thru excommunication business for LDS swingers. Think of the time it would save. Not to mention denying the "Elders" the disgusting details to which I'm certain more than one has gone home and jerked it to later. :-)
Game ON....which sign is Hornier...(is that a word?) - zodiac signs of swingers? - Add one more Cancer (Mr.)
and one more Gemini (Mrs.)
We are both horn dogs.
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