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Swinging as solo Male part of a couple? - - I have one question. If you are playing alone, why post her sexy pics? It seems to me that most swingers (not all) don't look at the profile first. They go straight for the pics. That way they don't waist time reading a profile if they are not attracted to the swingers in question. Am guilty of such a thing and am honest enough to say it. I go straight for the pics... another thing if your wife allows it why not post that you are a married man lacking of attention, it worked before. It wife trust you enough, why not help you on your desires. To me posting her pics, if you are looking for your self, is like OK we are in a relationship but there is no trust you have to post the my pics on there so every one knows your mine..........Hey it's just my opinion...not trying to offend any one or be rude

Are swingers moral? - Who determines what morals are? - CRAZYFOXTCU - you're turning me on. Am I immoral to feel that way? (I'm holding up my sarcasm card...) K.

Why so much hate in the swingers world... - - BICOU4BIF_FL, Again, your experience is unique to you. It's been our experience that very few single men have been "pushy" or disrespectful. It's different for all of us and doesn't justify anyone trying to foil every single males swinging life by campaigning against them as a whole. Intolerance is never justified. If you choose individually not to play with singles, then that is ok. We all have our preference. However, why try and bad mouth the entire group, in an attempt to demonize them to everyone else or to exclude them from social gatherings. If you invite people that are interested in single males to your parties, it will even things out. I think a lot of it has to do with insecurity. I have yet to see a married woman fuck a single male at a party without the her and husband's consent. Alton wrote: "but thats your opinion ,,you are right & we are wrong then again we are right & you are wrong,, it's funny, its a no win situation,lol" Thanks for validating my analogy for murder, abortion, marijuana or any other subject. If you say it's ok to be racist, because it's your opinion. Then it should be ok to murder, because it's your opinion. Your logic is flawed. ;-) -D-

Other activities? - Do you only meet swingers for sex? - Yes we agree with Dar Dorn we have met people to swim at our place, BBQ, get dinner, a movie, and just stroll around the Mall looking for deals. Some we have slept with others we have not. As we posted before, for us it\'s A FRIENDSHIP first, and if it develops into sexual play then we know that everyone will have a good time.

Jewellery, logos, etc to identify other swingers - We would like info on websites catering to discreet items to let others "know" we are in the lifestyle - SDC has a pennant cufflink or pennant on a chain when you join. so if anyone from the website see's it they will know you are a members. M

can we swing and still not be in sin ? - - NPNUDISTCPLE thanks for your reply i do understand that some people have issues with god well , i don't !!! i might have issues with religion but never with god , in this thread i was looking to get info. from people that are swingers and believers in god and find no contradictions doing so , and find out witch religion they follow and how they practice swinging and so i only would like them to reply i do know some basics witch i shared with all here like the diff. with singles or couples of other religions , males only or females only rule but want to know more like is it from god or is it from religion if it is from religion witch one , if you don't know or don't want to know just skip this thread .

Can\'t seem to get it going. - What to do? - I\'m going to go a little deaper than the responces I have seen so far. First thing, you said that you have been divorced TWICE. That is not deadly in itself, but some personal examination of why is a good thing. For the most part, swingers are not looking for problems or \"bagage\" just fun social and sexual things with folks. I guess what I am suggesting is that you need to be straight out in getting your house in order and yes as others have suggested, a well filled out profile and pics are in order. Some couples like to add a single male, Some couple like to add a single female... but swinging in general is a couples game. Recognize the fact that you are a way over supply of single males that most couples will find you if they have any disire to add a single male. At this point you really do need to be someone that is desirable to that couple. Do your best and hope for the best. Fill out your profile, post a few pics, ( not just cock shots, everyone knows that you have one) Be nice, be personable, be someone that others would enjoy being with and that includes social things as well. OK, TJ off the soap box (TJ = the janitor just cleaning up the place)

The Vent part II - Secrecy - Small towns are a real pain in the posterior. We were asked if I was at the hospital when we came in at about 4am. We told tham that we were at a party that lasted a bit longer than we had expected. People here talk about other people on the other side of town... I think they can tell what you ate last night, and will tell everyone they comeincontact with about it. A for this specific case... I think I would just tell them that you have plans that do not involve them but maybe another time when things are not planned. Being good friends with "vanilla" people who are so hanggie oners can be a real drag if you are in the lifestyle. As for telling most people that you swing... well to say the least..... DOn't... I wouldn't tell my right winged brother that we swing... He would probably have a conniption. If friends ask if you swing, they alreasy have the notion and they are still there so if you think it's prudent... OK. Never just tell anyone just so that you are honest with you and in a small town.... you will probably be ostrisized. We have contacted people in this town who are on other sites and they usually will not answer a note. Afraid that people will find out who they are. We have met people on the streets that we know from clubs and generally just say hi or exchange pleasantries.... Happened yesterday at a local restaurant...met a guy with his daughter and we said hi and were very warm but the daughter looked very confused by it all... His wife wasn't there so we figured that his daughter was taking Dad out for FathersDay. Have met people we have played with and just said hi and little more and moved on... I haven't aclue why anyone would duck out of a club if they see some one they know, even a relative. They are there for the same reason as you and might be just as imbarrassed but your secrete is safe with them. One of my girlfriends and my wife and I were at a club social and she ran into her husbands boss... Nothing ever came of it and they didn't even ask why he wasn't there or who we were. We swingers are a very descreet lot, for the most part.. and seeing someone you know, at a club, generally results in nothing but another friend. We go to socials/dances/parties just about every week but in towns not too far away... If we meet people we know we are most likely to talk to them and say hi and talk about how great the music is that night or even hook up.... So one never knows ... Life is a joke within a joke sometimes.... and one need to learn how to laugh at what it brings to the table.

Girls that are into DP - How common is this activity among the swingers? - I been in the lifestyle for 10 years mainly as a single male but also with a couple GF's. I actually found that more woman are into or are more interested in trying vaginal DP then regular DP. Of course, its tougher for them to find two guys who are willing and able to do a vaginal DP. Being I get most of my pleasure from the woman's pleasure its never been a issue for me and have done many of them :)

Respect...Needed? or just forgotten. - - The various points that have been made are well taken. We have been approached by people who are rude or crass. Typically it is a single male, often married pretending to be single or the de facto single male -- half of a vanilla couple pretending to be a swinging couple. I have several observations: This single male is far more likely to be a trial member. They have little or no real knowledge of swinging and it shows. They don\'t expect to be invited to join the couple or single female they approach. They simply find a cheap thrill in the crass sexaulity of the rude note they send. (I suspect they type them with one hand.) If given the oportunity (which their approach itself precludes) they would not play. Don\'t confuse them with the polite & respectful single males that are a part of swinging. We jokingly refer to them as hard-ons. They think because they once had a hard on -- they are qualified to swing. My FAVORITES are the ones that will \"let you watch\" or \"don\'t mind if you joins in\" as if somehow by their offer alone -- Belinda becomes theirs. You will see them at the clubs. Somehow they come up with the courage to go to a swingers club that allows single males. They are the males that hide in a corner too afraid to approach anyone or they are the males that come into the room with attitude written all over them -- as if saying \"I paid my fees -- who do I get to fuck\". If he is found out, the male half of the vanilla couple will stamp and stammer and claim that either he has his wife\'s permission or that she is cold and he is not getting any at home. Given their approach to sex. I have figured out, at least in part, why they are not getting any at home. I was raised by a very southern, very polite, Daughters of the Confederacy -- mother. Thus I had to endure the suffering born of numerous catillions or formal dances. Everyone knew everyone at the dances. Everyone knew that everyone was there to dance. But you went through the rituals of an introduction and small talk -- prior to dancing. While this analogy ignores the aspects of friendship that are a part of swinging. I have found that the manners I learned at my mothers knee have served me well in swinging. (Don\'t ya know that would shock the hell out of her!)