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Why Be In Utah? - - [quote=EVILDOERS]Actually I've always wondered the same thing about Florida. Substitute the crazy Mormons for the Bibile thumpers from Orlando north into the panhandle, add in the hurricanes, torrential rains, gaters, snakes and mosquitos...besides, I've heard the snow skiing is HORRIBLE there. But I'll bite. 1) No porn. You can buy dirty magazines but (unless you know where to go) hard core x-rate movies are technically illegal to sell. A non-issue in the internet age. If you're still buying dvd's at the local porn emporium you need to maybe update your computer or your media server or something. 2) No real beer. Again a myth. You can only buy 4% (by volume) beer in grocery stores but you can get full strength beer at state liquor stores, restaurants and places like brewery stores. Try getting ANYTHING to drink in some dry towns/counties in the Bible Belt. 3) True to some extent, although Salt Lake City itself is VERY eclectic and quite liberal politically. But at least our LDS lawmakers know basic female anatomy and have somewhat of a grasp of proven basic science. No kooky evangelicals freaking out every time someone mentions birth control or evolution. 4) Most people are afraid of Mormons? Really? I've heard they have horns and the missionaries CAN be a little annoying when you're fucking and they're ringing the doorbell but I don't think people are truly afraid. Besides, contrary to popular belief the swing scene here is alive, active and vibrant. I'd wager that per capita we have more, and more active, swingers than just about any place you can name. All that repressed Mormon sexuality eventually bubbles to the surface and until you've fucked a formerly repressed little Mormon girl who's discovering her sexuality you, my friend, haven't fucked! :-) [/quote] Exactly what I was going to say but I would add in that it's more of an out door culture here. So many outdoor adventure activities to do here.

Secret Swingers Club Ogden, UT - Clubs - We are going to unspoken tomorrow night. Anyone else going?

2007 Tribute to the Troops - Post your media here :-) - TR was just trying to make a tribute to our troops, something posistive. Whether ppl agree or disagree with them being there, I am with Don.....THEY ARE THERE either way!!! I do believe that this site isn't the place to be debating that point. In either case, there are fellow swingers on this site that are military couples/ppl so what is so wrong with showing some tribute and thanks to them. Why turn it into a negative battle........Thanks TR for starting a thread and showing some thanks and appreciation for those serving our country. Ignore those that turn it into negativity. I am sure those in the military do appreciate your intent. I did enjoy the links....

On a serious note... - A court case that could effect lifestylers with children - GEE PEOPLE, IT DOES NOT MATTER WHAT COUNTRY WE LIVE IN, THIS SHIT IS ALWAYS GOING TO BE AN ISSUE, FOR COUPLES WHO HAVE GONE THROUGH A DIVORCE WITH CHILDREN... BELIEVE ME WE KNOW. I MYSELF, AMANDA, GOT TAPED ON THE CHAT SESSION ONE NIGHT BY A PERSON,WHOM I DONT EVEN KNOW, WHO HAPPEND TO BE A FRIEND, OF MY HUSBANDS X-WIFES FRIEND,AND SHE MAILED THE TAPE TO MY HUSBANDS X-WIFE...(OUCH) I CANT EVEN TRUST SWINGERS ANYMORE EAITHER?? I DONT EVEN KNOW WHO THIS WOMAN IS, ALL I KNOW IS THAT SHE IS ON THE SITE... I DONT THINK SHE SHOULD BE IF SHE IS GOING TO TRY TO SCREW WITH PEOPLES LIFES.MY HUSBAND COULD HAVE LOST HIS TWO OLDEST CHILDREN, AND WE COULD HAVE LOST OUR YOUNGER CHILDREN WE HAVE TOGETHER, THE POINT IS WE STILL HAVE OUR CHILDREN!! AS LONG AS YOU CAN PROVE THAT THIS LIFESTYLE HAS NOUTHING TO DO WITH CHILDREN, AND THAT YOUR CHILDREN ARE NOT BEING HARMRD IN ANYWAY, THEN YOU WONT HAVE NOUTHING TO WORRY ABOUT, EXP. IF YOUR DISCREET! I GUESS THIS GOS TO SHOW YOU REALLY CANT TRUST A HOLE LOT OF PEOPLE OUT THERE? SO GOOD LUCK WITH YOUR BATTLE, WE FEEL FOR YOU! AMAANDA N HADEN :)

Poly-Swingers - Moving beyond FWB relationship - [quote=BENT]SUMINDYFUN: To attempt to better answer your question, this is what we've experienced/learned in our poly-type relationships... This is so much more of a complex subject than just a quick "blurb", we like to compare it to guessing a 4 combination lock, you know at least 1 or 2 of the correct numbers... but do you really??? You find out an amazing amount about YOURSELF through this process! We have seen just about everything emerge, from complete unbelievable bliss to complete unbelievable hurt. However, what we've learned is TOTAL honesty, trust, respect, patience and absolute untethered communication are key! These things can either make or break it and breaking it earlier rather than later is a good thing, because if it breaks later then it usually means one or more people missed one or more of the fore-mentioned items and will cause much greater hurt because of all the time/work that was put in by the others. BTW, apparently the bliss is much more powerful than the hurt because we keep trying and trying for some reason? Yep, its like a drug and we're addicted! This is why we dont fault any one for not wanting to "step through that door" so to speak. We suggest to any one that they open that door very, very slowly and even walk away for a bit before entering fully. ABCMAN: You hit the nail directly on the head... from our experiences, social conditioning is extremely difficult for most people to overcome.[/quote] Thank you BENT! We agree with you 100% on the honesty and communication aspect. We have been so happy in the year we have been with our couple, but there have been some bumps and mis communications along the way. Fortunately we were able to deal with them and learn from them rather well. We realize that a Poly relationship is very complex and risky, but the rewards outweigh the risks for us. Wishing you guys good luck in your search!

Secret Swingers Club Ogden, UT - Clubs - It's the door with the little ghost on it on 25th St. We walk by it but can't figure out how to get in. Saw a post on here a while ago mentioning it.

seniors - why is it so difficult to find senior swingers or single ladies? -

KITTY,

You seem to be a very presumptuous person. I was born in South Carolina and have lived there on and off. I was also a soldier for a time in the south. I am not from Utah. I have only been here for a little over a year. I was raised in Oregon. I have lived in both extremes. I have seen both sides of the world. I could care less what you are apologetic for. The bottom line is, that a Southerner's shit stinks just like everyone elses. They have and still commit atrocities in the South, just like anywhere else. Just as there are people that are hospitable in all of the world. Southern Hospitality is no more present than Northern Hospitality. Where you are from says nothing about the individual. If you understood any of what I said, you would know that. Your post suggested that the state you live in has something to do with your tact. That is absolute disinformation. It is propagandist intolerant garbage. All states have their assholes and their good people. I would also like to say that Liberalism or Conservatism also have nothing to do with it. All you are proving is that you, like most other are biased based upon your affiliations. Is that bad??? No. Just don't try and convince everyone that you are somehow better based upon your locale or political affiliation. We are all human. We shit, eat, sleep, hate, love, laugh and cry the same. You are no better than the next. Remember, it was you that was making the bold statement that where you were from had something to do with your tact. So, before you imply that I am somehow bitching at you for expressing your opinion remember, you posted it for others to reply, that is the point of this forum. I am after all giving my opinion as well. So feel free to post whatever you wish, as I am doing the same. Thank you.
-Don- P.S. It is bad form or improper etiquette to type in all caps when posting in a forum or chat, as it is considered yelling when doing so. I figured you would like to know, given the subject of etiquette and tact. Oh and it was Bobby McFerrin that said, "Don't Worry Be Happy". Bob Marley said, "No Woman, No Cry". LOL!

Why so much hate in the swingers world... - - we are looking for friends ,, the friends i have now,, we can party & set around , talk, joke. and whatever.and not worry about what is said or who said it. To give you an example our friend Glen got him a new girlfriend she is spanish, now our friends are people of all colors different religons, there polish italian, irish, african american, etc..etc.. But Glens new girlfriend is new to the crowd. She been dating him for about 4 months. Now we don't swing with any of these people, the problem we have is this ,in our group of friends and Glen is in agreement with this , that we all have to watch what we say now if we say anything that has to do with spanish people, as in joking,cutin' up, whatever.she will get mad. If you can't sit around and joke and cut up without anyone getting offended then your not friends. We have tried to discuss this with her, to no aveil... This is what we are looking for, friends that can get along... without all the other bullshit that goes on in the rest of the world.. kristy & alton

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Vegas clubs - Which are the best? - If you are looking for a swingers club, check out Whispers. If you desire single guys, don't go there since they are not allowed. Also, their naked pool parties on Saturday and Sunday afternoons are really fun. We've heard a lot of good things about Playhouselv, but have not been there yet.