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single males - - Thank you for opening the topic. I hope that it will be used shed some insight and not just complain.
In a place like Habits there are vanilla singles that have no clue that swingers congregate there. So there will naturally be more problem in that environment than a private party.
At a house party the only people that should be there are those that are invited by the host and hostess. Every one of the guests should have known the rules or etiquette of this lifestyle. If you had complaints, they should have been addressed last night with the hosts. Evidently the balance you were looking for was not there.
Sadly it is difficult for most singles to figure out how to talk to a swinging couple. There are no schools or training centers to teach this. As a single male, conversation at a vanilla party with a couple is much easier. Most often the men and women separate and we talk with one or the other without expectations on either side. Sometimes conversation is just conversation.
I find that making friends is generally more difficult in this lifestyle because of the sexual expectations of many. I think that you will find a number of the single men, after getting the cold shoulder from many husbands, find it easier to attempt to talk to the women because they lack the skills to talk with both. It is a mistake but it is also part of the learning process.
There is no excuse for rude behavior on the part of the single male but neither is there an excuse for the typical married male attitude. Single males are always and have always been a pariah and dam few couples want them at any party. I came into this lifestyle as a single male looking to make male friends to hang with that would help me understand the rules. I found most of the males were cold and suspicious and difficult to talk with.
I was not looking for women to play with nearly as much as I was looking for a girlfriend that was already in the lifestyle. But I am sure that as far as most were concerned all I wanted to find was their wife
Secret Swingers Club Ogden, UT - Clubs - We are planning on being there tonight. What is the theme and password for tonight?
Tired of Politics and Religion! - - Let me reiterate what others and myself have said.. I also find it funny that people are "tired of reading about politics and religion", when they have the choice whether to read and/or participate in controversial topics.
What I have noticed, to the contrary of the minority that complain about these subjects, is that there is far more participation (reading and or writing) with controversial subjects from the majority of this site. This includes the very people that complained. Shit, I mean they actually read the title of the thread, clicked on it, read through it and then take the time to post their judgment of everyone else participating, instead of taking that same opportunity to post in a sex thread or start another topic they deem acceptable for the website.
I find a lot less of my friends participate in the forums and on the site all together, when all the forum subjects are sex oriented. Many people, as well as I, find this website to be dry and boring when the only topics in the forum are, "Hey Look at my wife's gaping cooter" or the 10,418, 231, 121st thread about how much some insecure married dude hates single males. This is a sex site and not a single male bashing site right??? HAHA! So instead of going in those threads and bitching and whining like a fucking baby, I create my own... See how that works?
Anyway, It's interesting to see in any social group, that there is always someone that tries to limit the group to the boundaries they think acceptable for the entire group. Why are we trying to put conservative limits on a liberal lifestyle? I think boundaries should only be set in matters of legality, privacy and consent. What's interesting is that there are so many conservative swingers here, that would push their ideas of morality and within the rules of this website, try and stifle others freedom of expression and speech. Perhaps you few should quit the lifestyle and go to church.
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Swingers dying out? - Is the utah swinger community dying or becoming to needy? - [quote=CarriermanAndGeekGirl][quote=EVILDOERS]Yep, swinging's as dead as a doornail. We're thinking of taking up pornographic cross- stitching to fill the void. [em]Emo_96[/em] [/quote]
Speak for yourself.
The Lifestyle is alive and well here in Central Florida.[/quote]
lol, i think that was sarcasm
Looking to establish a group of safe swingers - - If my profile interests you, I am in
Open relationship - Any couples with a friend (male or female) to play with your partner anytime? - I have to agree with UTCPL 100%. Swingers Lifestyle is not about having sex on your own with another person.
Girls that are into DP - How common is this activity among the swingers? - [quote=ORALODYSSEY]Both DP and DVP are incredibly fun! We love it and it is so hot!![/quote]Average size guy here... fits all warm wet places.....DP and DVP...Apple pie :O
Swingers Dares - Text for cards in the game - TCMISSY... Let us know where to get that game (Blush).
A good dare for a woman is........ she has to put her cell phone on vibrate and insert it inside herself. Everyone takes turns calling her. We have a game that has that and it was hilarious.
Then there's this. - Enjoy! - I’ll be honest and say I feel terrible jumping into this online mess again. It seems there are so many tools out there for all of us to point fingers, argue, and simply divide us all.
I shouldn’t have jumped in and helped turn something that was likely meant to be funny into another argument. Everyone has the right to feel safe and secure and I hope you do whatever you need to do that, I just hope people tread lightly pushing those views onto others.
EVILDOERS Has always been a refreshing light on this forum with great advice for newbs and the funniest twist on everything. I apologize.
Hopefully I can do better and only add positivity to our great Utah swingers community to make 2021 better.
Is HABITS still the place to go? - - Habits:
Pros: Great music, food delish, cool/friendly staff.
Cons: Drinks pricey/watered down, music too loud, "dress code", popular hangout with self proclaimed elite swingers.
Club 48:
Pros: Drinks great, music at reasonable level, relaxed atmosphere.
Cons: Food sucks, understaffed, sometimes music sucks too.
Northern Exposure:
Pros: Private room with private smoking area, some drinks good, music at reasonable level, music ok.
Cons: Some drinks pricey/watered down and they seem to run out of their "specials" quickly, food sucks too, staff really busy (altho they are friendly).
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