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STD/STI Testing - - Actually it was closer to 1981 When HIV became aware to the medical community in the US if that is what you meant by that 1989 date. http://www.avert.org/aids-history-america.htm
HIV and HSV are the two nasties that should be of most concern for most swingers as they are incurable and HIV can be deadly. Both are costly in terms of lifelong medications but also in quality of life. They will be with you FOREVER!
HSV can pass by something as simple as a kiss and or oral.
Do clean test results mean something? YEs and No! Mathematically speaking the risk is related to a pyramid factorial equation. Meaning, for each new partner you have that is untested you are basically adding in the risk of not just that one person (Primary) but all the persons they have been with (secondary) and all the partners that those secondary people have been with etc etc.. HIV has been know to take up to 6 months of lag time from exposure to when it shows up on a test but 90 days is normally considered the standard waiting period. So any primary partner you play with who has been with someone in the past 90 days before they were tested still could have given HIV to you.
Granted HIV is rare. But HSV is not!
HSV cant take 2-3 weeks to show up on test results.
70-80% of the population will test pos for HSV as there are many folks who have the mouth cold sore HSV 1. To keep it simple sometimes in the testing HSV 1 really shows up as HSV2.. SO sometimes this means if you do test positive for HSV 2 it is really only HSV1. This is one reason Planned Parenthood will try to talk you out of this 160$ test
One more thing to add. Most people still think as long as they dont have an open HSV 2 genital herpes outbreak they are good to go. This has been found to not be true. There is a relatively new phenomenon recognized in the scientific community called Viral shedding.
http://herpes-coldsores.com/viral_shedding.htm
Another worry that is rare but possible and I know of a recent case where a person gave someone Oral herpes HSV1 to the genital area of another person.
There is also Chlamydia that everyone almost laughs off because a single dose of meds will cure it! The sad thing is if you got CHLAM you could have got HSV or HIV also as they run together. TO explain this if your had a partner that gave you Chlamydia they could have just as eaisly have given you some other things.
SO what is the safest thing to do. No play with anyone other than your main partner.
But if that is not what you wish then:
The safest thing would be for both Prospective couples to stay monogamous for 90 days and then get tested.
This is all true to the best of my studies but anyone please feel free to correct me.
Best swingers club for a 26m/36f couple - - Every club has its own personality. FlirtLV in Vegas is fun. At the pool on Sunday, Whispers is fun also in Vegas. EDR and Sea Mountain in Palm Springs are some of our favorites. Each has its own crowd. If you can "swing" it the Mexico clubs are always fun. Bi activity is somewhat limited in the open but EDR seems to be the most receptive.
Game ON....which sign is Hornier...(is that a word?) - zodiac signs of swingers? - TOTALS So far:
Scorpio 10
Cancer 9
Sagittarius 5
Aries 6
Pisces 4
Gemini 7
Capricorn 4
Aquarius 3
Virgo 3
Libra 2
Taurus 4
Leo 2
What really defines a TRUE swinger? - - We never have viewed single males as swingers. To to us and most of our swinging couple friends single males are cheap sex toys you carefully pick from, use them on rare occasions and then return them and forget them. Sounds harsh but the great thing is that is exactly what the majority of single males that we have all met like. We have only met a couple single males out of hundreds that have broken the mold and surprised us.
swinger ? or not. - - At what point are you a swinger?
Is it simply the action of knowing your secure enough to allow each other to enjoy the company of another , or once you have actually done it.
Not questioning our ability to find pleasure in the arms of another couple. However the fact remains we still never have.
We were lucky enough to to have been involved in a couple hazy threesomes. (same partner)
So...... are we swingers or something in between ?
Swingers dying out? - Is the utah swinger community dying or becoming to needy? - I'm guessing whether you think things are dying out, is a matter of peperspective. If you have a certain kind of couple you are looking for and want to meet someone new every weekend, I'm guessing the well will run dry quickly.
We have very little time, so even meeting a few people here and there can be tough to schedule.
I see events, parties and booty calls listed all the time...add in the messages, friend requests (which are usually useless), and new people joining (whom you can choose to say hi to or not), and honestly, I'm not sure how anyone has time for it all to the point of saying the swing scene is dying. Guess we're just too new to remember the good old days. But as far as we can tell, there are a lot of nice, fun people to get to know...and simply not enough time to.
Girls that are into DP - How common is this activity among the swingers? - The couple times I've done it, I've had such a better time the more I knew the two guys, and j had that comfort level, that being said, I'm moving back to Utah and hopefully getting back into the swing, of things if anyone will have me?
Another Swingers Show on TV - - bah another boring swinging show people fucking big deal
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Know any Mormon swingers in SoCal? - Single girl in SoCal wants to know! - @ Evildoers: Just being able to take primary songs and make naughty versions of them would be enough to turn her on :)
@ Jeff: lasso you soon!
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