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Elusive FMF - Your thoughts? - Hello All!
Forgive the long post - but I simply wanted to respond to what VP stated SO well.
Posted by VP:
Here's a question:
Is it that a single swinging female is all that elusive, or is it just more likely that a woman who's secure enough in who she is to have a liberated lifestyle is probably more likely to have a boyfriend / husband? Thus making it a simple fact of life and society that the whole concept of a liberated single female is for the most part a myth or at best a temporary state.
Guys are programmed to be tomcats. There comes a time when "every boy must become a man". But little girls are taught that "sex is something only for your husband".
Society accepts single males prowling about generally - that's why when a single guy get shat upon in a swingers site, the resultant wailing bears striking resemblance to a chorus of whining mules. They don't get it: "They don't like me? Why? I'm hot..." Now if a woman were to go out there looking for it, then she's branded a home-wrecker, "slut", "whore", or worse. Tell me you'd sign up for that cruise?
IMHO: I think when a couple starts kvetching about the lack of single females, they might do well to have a look at why it is that they want just a woman and not her S/O. Chances are, deep down those same paradigms that are causing the lack of single females are deeply rooted in their own attitudes.
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From the "not so elusive" Te:
From my perspective I would have to agree with these statements wholeheartedly. I
Swing Camp (7/15 - 7/17) - Swingers Campout in Birch Creek Idaho - Sounds like a great time. Have you considered Fall creek??? Their are plenty of sites that are a non pay type that have lots of trees with the creek for some interesting bathing!!!
STD/STI Testing - - [quote=TOKI_WARTOOTH][quote=MAYBEMOR]This is the attitude we find so prevalent!!!
Play on to your hearts content. [/quote]
We can be tested regularly and play safe without being a paranoid little jackwagon. Maybe the attitude you have is why your postings got deleted off other sites.[/quote]
No, Toki, you are the Jackwagon! The way you responded to this thread is an obvious display of your lack of intelligence about this issue. Maybemor and others are just attempting to make this lifestyle a little safer for all involved. Not sure if you read much but there was a situation recently in Kansas City where a man and his wife were HIV Positive and managed to put a number of people at risk of contracting HIV, and these are supposedly "swingers" who know better.
I've been to parties for over 4 years!! Not everyone uses condoms. Maybe you do! But even a condom isn't going to protect you against Herpes!! You always use latex with oral sex Toki.. hmm... probably not.. and guess what, you are putting yourself at risk for Herpes!
Even if you get tested for Herpes you still are at risk. You could have contracted it on the weekend, go in on Monday get tested, the whole gamut of tests, get negatives on everything. Then two to three weeks later you come down with itchy bumps that turn into sores, oh shit, guess what.. yep.. you just were infected and are now positive for Herpes.. Why.. because you don't get it!!!
The reason we need more people to talk about this is people are getting STD's on this site and others like it. I applaud Rob and his willingness to do what some of you may think is not needed. Toki is a prime example of why you don't play with just anyone!
Sure you can't stop everything all the time, and frankly anytime you have sex with multiple partners it's a risk. But let's not be stupid folks, let's be careful. You only have this life to live, why fuck it up for yourself and the one you love because you are stupid?
PS.. I wrote a long post a few months ago about our own experience with the STD issue. I received a number of posts about others who carry HSV2. Interesting thing is some of these people who have HSV2, DO NOT always tell their potential partners they have the disease. Why? PURE IGNORANCE or just they don't give a shit (which is worse).
I want to make sure everyone knows, this is MR ABC who is writing this post.
We're going to SEMA! - Gonna be in Las Vegas for the weekend. Sexy swingers?? - The pregnant wife and I are going to be in Vegas from tomorrow evening through saturday morning. It's going to be awesome to go to the SEMA show. We'd love to meet up with some super SEXY swingers while we're there, or maybe a nice sleepover on the way home saturday night?
Maybe meet at the couples oasis? What other plans could we make?
Stay sexy swingers!
Swingers In Uniform - Pay your memorial day respects here. - To the men and women that went before me and after me to protect our freedom
Hats off to you and Thank you
How to identify yourself as a Swinger - - [quote=EVILDOERS]LOL, yeah this subject...or fantasy (and the black ring, or the ankle bracelet, or the...(insert urban legend here)) crops up every few months or so. Bottom line, no matter how hard people want to find a way to ID other swingers in public it won't happen. Let's say for a minute that all or even just most swingers DID agree somehow on some kind of article to wear or display. It would take about 24 hours (likely less) for someone to post it online and it would be pretty much common knowledge within a week. Ergo nobody would actually display it for fear of being outed. Sorry, just human nature on all counts.
We identify other swingers the old fashioned way. Sheer irrational speculation. Either that of we consult the Psychic Network. Both ways work equally well. [em]Emo_67[/em] [/quote]
Ah yes, i see you point there. Makes perfect sense.
Sorry if this was brought up before, cant seem to find a way to search the forums? Is there a way?
KUTV News Story on Swingers - News - It's too bad. They had an opportunity to expose more people to a healthy, vibrant, valid lifestyle choice. Instead it appears they will fear monger and use the states natural prejudices to present a skewed and irrational viewpoint from a person who could very well only be attributing their marriages demise to swinging purely to deflect from any other problem that could have been present. Not to mention that she is essentially an anonymous source and unless they can provide any validation for her story it may as well be entirely fiction. Of course it is on local news in Utah so most likely the only people who will be watching it won't know how to work a computer.
Swingers dying out? - Is the utah swinger community dying or becoming to needy? - Yep, swinging's as dead as a doornail. We're thinking of taking up pornographic cross- stitching to fill the void. [em]Emo_96[/em]
San Diego clubs? - Friday June 4 - We'll be in San Diego on Friday June 4. Is there a good swingers club the wife and I could visit that night?
Then we'll be in Los Angeles Sat night. What about a club there? (We've been to Sea Mountain Inn in Palm Springs and enjoyed that, but we didn't want to drive that far Sat night)
Thanks!
Kik group for UT swingers. - Contact me if your interested in joining a KIK group for Swingers - Utahrocker2
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