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Friend collectors or swingers - - [quote=SARnRED4KinkyFunUT]We feel that we have "friends" who we don't even know. We'll get a friend request and then nothing else. [/quote] So don't accept it. So many people, including us, have a blanket policy of simply deleting blind friend requests that we're not sure why people still do it especially when it's clearly addressed in a profile.... but they do. Like fishing without bait. Clueless people just aren't our type.

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What is hotwife? - - [quote=DELICIOUSLYWET]In our limited experience, remembering that we don't personally know everyone in the local "swinging lifestyle" community, "hot wife" seems to mean that the wife is free, and probably even encouraged to play with people, other than the husband or wife in a couple, that her husband and her play with in the more traditional definition of swingers. Mostly, it seems to refer to a wife that plays with single men. Most of the "hot wives" we have met, also play together with their husbands with other couples, or in threesomes with another woman or another man, and the husband enjoys similar freedoms. Cuckoldry does not seem to be all that prevalent locally, in our experience. So really, the term "Hot Wife" may be used rather loosely here in Utah. We ourselves are guilty of this. We are not at all into cuckoldry, or anything verging on disrespect, but we enjoy opportunities, and adventures, that for lack of a better description, verge on the worship of the divine feminine sexual experience, with my wife as the object of my and other's sexual adoration. How's that for a convoluted response! [/quote] Thorough based on personal experience and exactly what I have experienced as the single male in a hotwife situation.

Calling all losers! - LS and club scene - ...........................................I am bored on a Sunday, so going to waste a bit of time. :) I have said this before and I will mention it again here. Often times people are looking for a black and white answer, a "this" or "that" or they tend to pigeonhole themselves into a place that feels comfortable to them. It is great that people can search for and find people of similar interests. The original question was why is the Utah scene so closely related to the club scene. To me, that isn't necessarily the way things are and so I am responding to shed a different insight into the question. How big is the club scene in Utah? I don't feel it is that big. We have the Moose Lounge on Fridays on a regular basis, we used to have Habits and then we have the parties that happen once a month or less frequently, such as the Sinful parties. Give or take a few other club locations and attendees. The average attendance at the Moose Lounge is around 80 people every Friday. My guess is that this number is well under 10% of the swinging population in the area. Just estimating. This only happens once a week. If we only consider the weekend as play time (Friday and Saturday), which is also an inaccuracy since people do meet weekdays and Sunday as well, that means that only 5% of the population of swingers is actually attending the swinger club scene on the weekends. Certainly not a majority by any means. Sinful is definitely a club scene. And maybe we should define "club". I will say that is an environment where there is a DJ or another form of music, often times on the loud side as people like to dance, has a dance area for such activities, and typically doesn't open until 9 or so at night. Sinful probably hosts on average 150 people on average (S&A, don't get mad if this number is off,lol) and these happen maybe once a month. Lets just round this high and say that is 20% of the swinger population. However, many that attend the Moose and other clubs are the same that attend Sinful. Similar crowd and often an overlap. So still nowhere near a majority, or even a large percent. In fact, quite the opposite. This scene is well in the minority. So I am submitting that this really isn't and accurate assessment of the situation and based on more of a sense or feeling than actual fact. What this tells us then is that most of the people in the lifestyle are not meeting at clubs and are not necessarily dancing and staying up until all hours of the night but are finding other avenues where they meet. What other options are out there. Venus Game night, Kandy K, Sensual Massage... These venues are not club scenes, are a relaxed place and quiet enough to talk without "using hand signals". There still might be music and a dance floor, but there are certainly quite areas to talk, socialize and sometimes even fuck, if that is your scene. I would estimate that as many or more people attend these type of events and for most of these it is an older crowd who is more apt to be in bed at an earlier hour, though that is also an assumption and assumptions are obviously a poor way to derive information or determine a truth. I would question if any of the people in this forum have attending these more mellow parties and what they didn't like about that. The loud music is gone, it is a great way to meet many nice, non-pushy people with similar interests and since the crowd is a bit more mature (probably not the Venus parties) then there would be people of similar interests there. Now it may be of benefit of the party hosts to start earlier, say 6 or 7, so the activities can finish up earlier and I'm sure the hosts would entertain that if it was a common complaint. Apart from these types of parties and club scenes the only other way to meet people in a group setting are house parties, although keep in mind the Sinful hosts to things outside of the club but the crowd will usually still be the same people who attend the Sinful Club parties so are probably younger and okay with staying up late and partying, so probably not for the majority of people responding on this forum looking for an early-to-bed group. Let's talk about house parties. The ones we host sometimes have upwards of 60 or 70 people. These are people we have met before, for the most part, and we don't invite random people to these. We have an area to dance, music, but also areas that are quiet. The party starts around 7 and goes until... whenever. 6 am at times, but many leave before that. These aren't orgy parties and people don't show up expecting that. We also do game nights where we have 3-5 couples over for games, drinks, no dancing, hot tub, etc. Also people we know. We have been to many house parties as well and it is usually people we have met before. We are very leery of parties where there is some expectation to show up and fuck. We avoid these. Not our scene. But these house parties are out there. The doors close at 9, naked by 10, fucking by 1015. You are expected to fuck someone. Definitely not for us but definitely an okay and acceptable thing for others. Judgment is such an incredibly hypocritical thing in the lifestyle and I am astounded by how many people judge others. It is one thing to not enjoy a certain thing and to stay away from it, but it demean it, negate the validity of it and try to reduce the people who do it is completely asinine. My point is there is a variety, a full spectrum to every aspect of the lifestyle. From people looking only to make friends to people only looking to fuck. There is no right and wrong or black and white. We have so many good friends now that we feel super fortunate and blessed every day. But how did we meet those friends. Here is the key. Through hard work. Through dinner dates, clubs, social events, house parties and networking. Remember, this is my opinion, so please, readers, don't get offended. If you limit yourself to one avenue your success will be limited and you will have very few options in finding that fun couple that you click with. Many of our friends that we have met at a club typically like to be in bed at 10, or sometimes like to stay up late. Some of the people we have met in the most casual environment turn out to be crazy, fun party animals. I'm not saying if you don't attend the clubs you won't find what you are looking for especially since we have already determined that the club scene is so small. What I am saying is that if you are expecting a one-stop shop, or a fix-all, your success will be super limited. Your goal, I believe, is to meet as many people as possible and then sort through those you like and don't like until you are satisfied with your results. If you label the "club scene" as negative in your own mind, you might also be inadvertently labeling other fun activities and only reinforcing the confirmation bias you already have. Don't limit yourself to one way of finding friends, especially since it sounds like it isn't working that well for you now. We have found friends in every imaginable situation. Single dates, group dates, vacations, house parties and yes, clubs. I know our way works simply by the amount of amazing people that surround us and we call friends, and yes, some friends with benefits. Taking the time to start a topic is a good idea. The people on here all seem to have a similar interest and maybe some of you will take advantage of that, meet, and if things align, you make new friends. Maybe there is a need for a group to form that meets around 6 and finishes around 10 where only wine is served and only soft music is playing in the background. If so, take the initiative and form such a group. Create your own success. Maybe there needs to be a better way to post smaller events where only a few couples are going camping, coffee drinking, or similar. And maybe it is on Swingular and just not being utilized correctly. I'm sure with enough feedback the site could be fitted with such a feature. So don't despair. There are many, many people with similar interests and needs. You just have to find them. Each scene and venue has positives and negatives. Try to focus on the negative and utilize the resources that they are and you just might find your holy grail of FWB or what else it is you are looking for. Good job on the topic and hopefully that perfect couple is just around the corner. Mr. SRO...................................................................................................

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What the fuck - I'm not normal, please help me. - Here I am, one of them sick swingers with no morals or values. I can fuck a mans wife and let him fuck mine and feel good about it. Then go home still excited and fuck the wife talking about our experience. We are a menace to society, should be locked the fuck up before our choices destroy the very foundation our country was built on. And did anyone else hate their parents? The ones that would not let you run wild and scream in a restaurant. Said you would never drive unless you had a job and could forward your share of insurance. The ones that neglected you so they could help take care of their ailing parents. What was the sense in that when they couldn't walk and were ready to die anyway. Told you to eat the shit that was put in front of you at the table, if it wasn't good enough don't eat it or find a better table with food on it to sit at. Who would believe that I would someday look at myself and see them. That horrible person that helps a neighbor if in need, makes sure the kids needs are met before mine, tell them the same old stupid stories about how we got fresh air and exercise instead of finger cramps from sending those incredible words with no feeling or emotion. So what the fuck happened when they became adults, why are they not like me? For them saving for the future or crisis that is bound to happen doesn't exist. Maybe they are smarter because when rent and utilities came due they can reach into my bottomless pockets and grab a hand full of cash. But on the way to pay the bills choose instead to get concert tickets and that new 600 dollar cell phone they can't survive without . No big deal they can turn around and reach right back in and grab another handful. No need to bother with a how are you, can I give you a hand with something or spend some time together. Guess I'm done being a cry baby, no one will read this or give a shit anyway, think I'm going to grab my lawn chair, go out and look at the stars fantasizing about fucking Wilma, seeing the smile on my wifes face as she rides Fred's cock during a cruise on the ocean, might even shoot a load. To bad reality will sneak up on me when I realize that deep picket I worked my ass off for has run dry and there will be no cruise. The kids won't come around anymore or even text because we refuse to give them what must be rightly theirs, shit we don't need it because we have a rocking chair and a remote, what else could we want or have the energy for. Hum, you know what, I'm proud to be that sick swinger and don't even give a shit if my kids know it. Give me a little time and will tell you again what society should do with my sick ass. But until I get caught and made to pay for my sins it's time to take my cock out and stroke it again wishing I could be with friends, fucking and sucking with until all are satisfied and happy. Someone help me please and direct me to that magic pill everyone seems to have to make this madness go away. JUST SAYIN, hum anyone know what the fuck that is?