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Camping play? - Opinions - [quote=DODGE1]We are looking at some property in Duchesne and turning it in to a swingers camp ground. Do you think anyone would be interested in some thing like that [/quote] Yes sign us up twice

Finding a balance - Swinging and Religion - - [quote=ABCMAN]http://www.libchrist.com/swing/happysafestudies.html someone asked about Christian swinging groups...we'll here ya go. I think the animosity in Utah about religion comes from one direct source in most cases (LDS Church).. but of course some of the Christian (fundamentalist...bible beating) crazies can drive one crazy as well. The reality is that I have not seen a man made religion yet that isn't focused on control of it's flock. My question is how much did Christ push the idea of a church and how much of it was his disciples and Paul later on in the bible. Cliffnotes, I actually think you make a good point...context is so important in reading ancient documents, and the bible would classify as one. To use 21st century definitions or perceptions is useless in understanding 60 AD Jerusalem. I do think that you make a good point regarding David and Solomon, but of course the counter to that is that the Lord gave them their wives and concubines (,,,,Joseph Smith and the Mormons think this way...) Personally I don't see why a GOD would only give a King many wives and not the common bloke out in the wheat field, and frankly I wouldn't put much stock in some Old Testament tale or atleast the justification for them having many wives. I'm sure God really didn't give them anymore then anyone else. As for swinging, my personal feeling is that if your intent is not to harm, be in physical, be it emotional, then go for it. But that can cover a wide range of possible situations. I think there are ethical issues that always need to be addressed if your going to last long in the lifestyle. #1 Don't break rules you and your significant other set up between one another, and always communicate. #2 If it isn't a gift to one another, then maybe you need to reevaluate why your doing it. #3 If your looking at it as an escape, then you maybe doing harm to your partner or another persons marriage. #4 If your single and looking for a long term mate, then don't covet some other persons spouse, no matter what they may say or do. If he/she is falling for you, then do the ethically thing and break it off. It just causes harm to everyone involved in those situations, and don't think for a minute that you won't suffer long term ramifications from that type of situation. I'd let the couple work it out or they leave on another before I'd get involved again with that person. #5 Safe Sex, not only for you but your partner and others as well. (Golden Rule) if these sound patronizing then I apologize, but personally this is the approach I've taken, and my wife as well. So far it's worked out well. [/quote] Good post! By Groups I am talking about the groups that will soon be available on this site. In another site there was a group called Christian Swingers, it was very interesting and educational. I seem to remember a LDS swingers group also. But that is a good website you posted.

Swinger and/or Polyamorous FB Groups? - - I have heard there is a Utah swingers group but it’s a secret group so I’ve yet to find it. Essentially need to know someone in it in order to get in. Hopefully someone on here is in it!

Combining Lifestyle & Non-Lifestyle Friends - - We have both Swinger and non-swinger friends. We have found a few "swinger" friends that we would be "friends" with if we were not in the lifestyle. We have tried to invite these friends to parties that we have SPECIFICALLY specified as "VANILLA". Almost every time we have had our "swinger" friends cross boundaries which makes our "non-swinger" friends (who have non idea about our "lifestyle") go "WTF?!?!?!?!?!?". It has happened numerous times so it's no one in particular. Has ANYONE has success in blending swingers into their vanilla lifestyle? Just askin......

Why swingers are happier. - - [quote=SIMPLEPLEASURES]That just spoke of sex, not swinging [/quote] That was sort of my point. Although if you assume we have more sex then we must be happier. DeliciouslyWet, I just have to have fun with words from time to time. I am sure you know what I mean. [em]Emo_75[/em]

Preconceived Ideas - - Wow, great subject! My preconceptions of swingers were very similar to Big D's. Wild orgys, naked bodies everywhere....ohhhhh sounds pretty hot ....LOL But at the time for me it was scary. At our first party, within a hour I was begging my hubby to take me home I was terrified of being "attacked" Ok, now I kinda like that. Seriously, we have met some of the greatest friends EVER. Friends that you can depend on when you need them. Fun friends to hang out with who aren't shocked if you show a little skin, or a lot of skin. People who totally understand the double meaning to lots of subjects, friends who see you turn your head and watch the couple who just passed you on the street and know EXACTLY what was just going through your mind! Gotta love it!

Swingers In Uniform - Pay your memorial day respects here. - A Memorial Tribute To help the friends and family, to understand the call. That took your names from off lifes list, and place it a this Wall... You fought a war, unpopular, in Nam so far away. And now you've found the greatest peace, as we stand here and pray... Beyond the Wall we hope to find, the reason for it all. Why you with pride went far away, to answer duty's call... Perhaps the flag that others burn, became your symbol proud. Why you gave life, proclaim your love, of country, very loud... So rest in peace, my Warrior, my nurse and doctor too. And rest assured forever more, we'll all remember you... The Wall means much to everyone, these names on granite cast. To keep your memories alive, as long as time will last... So look upon the granite face, and touch the names with pride. For all their spirits linger there, beyond the Wall, inside... ~~This verse was placed in "The National Archives" on September 30, 1993.~~ ----------- They walk along the granite block, past names all etched in stone. Among so many others here, but feel so all alone... So many here to touch a soul, that passed so long ago. And tears now streak from off your cheek, emotions, have to show... There are so many people here, who wish the pain to end. Why not reach out a hand to them, to listen, be a friend... The Wall can bridge the largest gap, it made our nation one. We thank the nurses one and all, and every soldier, son... Whose names we see forever etched, upon the granite stone. Though painful make us realize, that we are not alone... The sacrifice, that you all made, that bring us to this shrine. Bring all those closer, left behind, perhaps the grand design... ------------------------ God Bless America!! Thank you to Men and Women that gave us the Freedoms we have! And Thank You to Those that continue to do so Today, Tomorrow and in the Future!! -------------

Safe Sex - How do you (or don't you) protect yourselves? - We now have the rule that we always use condoms. And we are still shopping around for the best ones that work for hubby. He would prefer not having to use them but not enough that he is going to stop. (Side Note: red condoms can have a BAD visual connotation for some guys) I admit that when we started out we didn\'t use them the first couple of times we played. We then discovered that the first couple we played with doesn\'t use them at all. They had some of the same arguments I\'ve seen posted here. The fact that STD\'s can be transmitted via oral sex, condoms don\'t feel right, etc. I can see those points. But then we found out that they don\'t get tested at all and he picks up random chicks while traveling (with wife\'s knowledge and permision) I think that is the point that makes me the most uncomfortable. Most of the swingers we have met so far are very aware of STD\'s and take some precautions such as getting tested, condoms, etc. But I have seen the statistics on STD\'s in single sexually active people and it\'s like 1 in 4 and most don\'t know they are infected. So he is playing russian roulette in my opinion. We didn\'t know all this before we played with them. So I guess the moral of the story is to talk with potential partners and ask questions!! For us newbies, it may be awkward and feel like you are being crass, nosy, or killing the spark, but the other couple should be willing to at least discuss it or maybe they aren\'t right for you!! Carrie V.

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Girls that are into DP - How common is this activity among the swingers? - [quote=LICKSUCKFUCK]Mmm I love DP! Only had the opportunity a couple times but want to again and again and again... never tried DVP except with my man and a toy but I would LOVE to. Same thing with DA. My man is pretty secure and doesn't care much as long as I'm satisfied :) Man I'm a lucky girl![/quote] k, I'm thinking you might want to change the gender on your profile....