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Know any Mormon swingers in SoCal? - Single girl in SoCal wants to know! - Where in SoCal. I work in the LA area 5 days a week.
Mr. Sexperimentors
Creating an Amazing Swingers Profile - How to market yourself better - Nicely done! We agree with all your comments. However, this means we need to go update our profile. Way to create more work for us, thanks a bunch! AND we need to get a couple who has met us to verify us. So much to do, so little time.
STD/STI Testing - - Actually it was closer to 1981 When HIV became aware to the medical community in the US if that is what you meant by that 1989 date. http://www.avert.org/aids-history-america.htm
HIV and HSV are the two nasties that should be of most concern for most swingers as they are incurable and HIV can be deadly. Both are costly in terms of lifelong medications but also in quality of life. They will be with you FOREVER!
HSV can pass by something as simple as a kiss and or oral.
Do clean test results mean something? YEs and No! Mathematically speaking the risk is related to a pyramid factorial equation. Meaning, for each new partner you have that is untested you are basically adding in the risk of not just that one person (Primary) but all the persons they have been with (secondary) and all the partners that those secondary people have been with etc etc.. HIV has been know to take up to 6 months of lag time from exposure to when it shows up on a test but 90 days is normally considered the standard waiting period. So any primary partner you play with who has been with someone in the past 90 days before they were tested still could have given HIV to you.
Granted HIV is rare. But HSV is not!
HSV cant take 2-3 weeks to show up on test results.
70-80% of the population will test pos for HSV as there are many folks who have the mouth cold sore HSV 1. To keep it simple sometimes in the testing HSV 1 really shows up as HSV2.. SO sometimes this means if you do test positive for HSV 2 it is really only HSV1. This is one reason Planned Parenthood will try to talk you out of this 160$ test
One more thing to add. Most people still think as long as they dont have an open HSV 2 genital herpes outbreak they are good to go. This has been found to not be true. There is a relatively new phenomenon recognized in the scientific community called Viral shedding.
http://herpes-coldsores.com/viral_shedding.htm
Another worry that is rare but possible and I know of a recent case where a person gave someone Oral herpes HSV1 to the genital area of another person.
There is also Chlamydia that everyone almost laughs off because a single dose of meds will cure it! The sad thing is if you got CHLAM you could have got HSV or HIV also as they run together. TO explain this if your had a partner that gave you Chlamydia they could have just as eaisly have given you some other things.
SO what is the safest thing to do. No play with anyone other than your main partner.
But if that is not what you wish then:
The safest thing would be for both Prospective couples to stay monogamous for 90 days and then get tested.
This is all true to the best of my studies but anyone please feel free to correct me.
Moab lifestyle - looking for what lies under the covers in Moab - Sadly Evildoers is right, at least in our experience. Sure, plenty of swingers travel to Moab, but if there is a notable population of local swingers interested in meeting outsiders, they keep themselves incredibly well-hidden. In fact, you'd be very hard-pressed to even find a single-male to join you, and that's even if you completely toss out any expectations and standards. The reality is that the bulk of Utah's population is on the sexually conservative end of the spectrum.
Why so much hate in the swingers world... - - i don't like anyone lol..
Looking to establish a group of safe swingers - - Definitely interested.
swingers helper... - I know some of us need this every now and again... - What is your sign?
Yay Delaware. - - What, no love for equal rights for everyone? Hmmmm thought swingers would kinda fall into that category on this particular social issue. Maybe it's a Utahr thang. On other swing sites support for gay marriage is running about 85-90%. Oh I get it. Maybe gay marriage somehow threatens your straight deviant non-monogamous marriage. :-P Yes, most vanillas who would oppose gay marriage would probably consider YOU a deviant because you fuck outside the bonds of holy matrimony. Looks like Minnesota will be next which oddly enough the other swing site I'm speaking of is based out of. :-)
Swingers Kickball Society - - We are I n Salt Lake Co
Are swingers moral? - Who determines what morals are? - [quote]Who determines what morals are?[/quote]
The golden rule is good but moral compasses are different therefore many feel as if they haven't been treated the way they would have liked to be by others.
Murder is one of the only non-moral actions agreed upon by most societies...
Sadly, it is usually determined by this quote from George Orwell...
"Who controls the past, controls the future: who controls the present controls the past.'"
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