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LDS Swingers Survey - Will any former/active LDS swingers take my survey? - There is no option for if one of you is still on the records and one of you has been removed so that question is hard to answer. It also doesn't define what is considered sex so for soft swappers like us we don't know how to answer how many folks we have had sex with since marriage. We assumed it meant the "Clinton" definition and answered accordingly.

Verified "Real" People - - [quote=DE2OFUS]Sorry folks, you are wrong. This is not a "who is cheating on their spouse" site. This is a swingers' website. A site designed to allow persons to have sex with other persons who are not their legal spouse. The question is, "verified REAL people". The gentleman in question, who INFORMED the young lady who started this post that he was married and cheating, was apparently VERY real. It is not up to you to call this man out as someone to stay away from. It is ENTIRELY up to you whether or not you want him to have sex with your wife, KNOWING he is married and cheating. Else, where do we draw the line? Is it up to me to send a note to the entire community if I believe your wife had a hygiene problem? Should I call her out by name in a forum and label her as someone to stay away from? I think not. The question was whether or not the guy was real...he was...and, again, probably more "real" than most of the people on this site.[/quote] [quote=TINKFROMHELL]I am really interested in the feature as it is suppose to help clear out the fake people on the site, right?? I just talked with a "Single Male" that is interested in hooking up with couples and single females. However he isn't single he is married and is looking to cheat on his wife. So why do we even have that feature when they verifies a liar.[/quote] Sorry DE2OFUS, but you are wrong. The verification process is to verify that a Couple is is a real couple or a Single Female is a Single Female and not a Single Male masquerading as a couple or single female as a way to infiltrate the site being something other than a single male. That was happening at the beginning of this site. It caused a lot of problems. It is not a question of whether this person is a real person or not. But, if we were to take the Real Seal literally, it is for 'Verification' to prove that this person is what he claims. He claimed on his profile to be 'single'. He admitted he is NOT single. Therefore the verification would have been false as he was NOT a Real 'Single' Male. He was married, whether cheating or not. [quote=ADMINISTRATOR] As a matter of fact [The VIP and REAL seal verification] was NEVER intended for single males and we actually stopped verifying them because people were thinking that we were vouching for them. The only purpose the seal serves is to know that you are truly talking to real couples or single females. Single men have it hard as it is so why would anyone want to fake being one. And when we verify somebody, we do not verify their looks, age, color, build or any physical property so that doesn't help single men either. [/quote] For the people who do care if the SM is lying or not, men like this do a great disservice to a SM like myself who is honest and truly single, not lying on his profile about his status. And remember that Swinging by it's nature must be about honest communication. It doesn't matter that this person 'admitted' a lie. What matters is that he LIED, and that the person who posted this question wanted him to be single, not a lying cheater.

How to identify yourself as a Swinger - - [quote=STARSHELL1212][quote=LOUISE_DON]Upside down pineapple ?? lol i dont get that at all.....[/quote] Early on, when looking into swinging, I visited another forum. A couple posted a picture of themselves with the caption, "We did it!" Their shirts were off and they were facing away from the camera. A few people posted that they didn't get it. The OP explained that they got upside down pineapples tattooed on their backs so other swingers would know they were in the lifestyle. No one knew what they were talking about. It was sad cause at first they joked that it was a well known sign, but person after person chimed in that they had never heard of it. Some people who had been in the lifestyle over ten years said they'd never heard of it. After a while they stopped trying to convince people and then stopped responding. It was pretty sad. [/quote] Now THAT is commitment! All you poser swinger wannabe's should be fucking ashamed of yourselves. You DARE call yourselves wife swappers? Pffft (disdainful noise)

When is this site going to get back to SEX - - I would suggest that if you'd like hotter topics, provide the threads. The forum has been kept running by people who present topics, albiet sometimes controversal and mostly about things other than the lifestyle. On other sites to which we belong or did belong the topics were about how to meet women by single men or from people who wanted advice as to how get their spouce, SO, G/F past the talking stages and into the lifestyle...It seems that since there are no questions and everyone is a swinger of experience that subjects from newbies are not here. There are no Newbies here???? MAybe people come into the forum see the posts and figure that they will be looked down upon by all of those hardened and seasoned swingers.... So to facilitate putting this forum onto the swinging scene, people need to toss caution to the wind and take advantage of all of the experience here. A thought just crossed my mind.... could it be that the people here are simply talking the good game. Now that will probably get me flamed from many sides. So please stop complaining that the forum is not about swinging and sex and make it that... I have a PS for this ....so here's my PS PS: If anypme doesn't like what I say, I say FUCK YOU !!! because that is what we should be here for..... getting busy....But I could be wrong....

Single Males ~VS~ Single Females - Whats the difference? - OK... How many times do we have to beat the proverbial dead horse? NOTHING in this thread is new, aside from one guy getting letters from Honduras or some other odd shit. The reality of it is this: Single Men tend to be pushy, arrogant, looking to "fuck your wife like you wish you could," and other various piggish things, HOWEVER, there are those, T4REAL is among them, that are swingers...The problem is that there are MANY of the former, and FEW of the later. Between the insecurity, the preferences, and the assholes, it makes for an uphill climb for a single male. The best advice I can give single males is this: DO NOT FEED THE STEREOTYPE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! If the profile says, NO SINGLE MALES...don't write...you are NOT special...If they respond negatively, do NOT write back and ask why or make a snide remark....Just let it go... IF you are reading a profile and it says, "WE WILL CONTACT YOU" let them contact you...Come on...The profile says that for a reason... Now...On to the clubs...Someone stated that they paid $70 to get into a club, but got laid with dinner and all for less...Sorry, but that sounds like prostitution...NOTwhat the lifestyle is about...Why do they charge more for single men? because the single man will pay it...They do not run a club as a "Lets get single men layed charity" it is a business...the sole purpose of a business is to make money...That whole discussion is the EXACT reason so many couples say NO SINGLE MEN...What a prick...If I were you, I would delete that piece...You will NEVER get laid with that type of shit floating around here... Another reason single men are so frowned upon, how many times have you seen a profile with nothing but a dick picture? OK>.....You ARE a male, we must assume you have one...Why not put something else on? If you read profiles, MOST say, "WE DO NOT NEED A COCK SHOT" only a few want to make sure the goods are good...so why would you post nothign but a cock shot? Then there is the angry inch guys...They have a turtle head and wanna advertise it...What the fuck is that? If you have a small dick, you can make up for it with personality and skill, HOWEVER, if you advertise it...No one will give you the chance... OK...I think I am done with my rant...At least for now...

Wishbones - - I think this is a great idea! We once went to a local bar for a gathering of swingers (not a swingers bar), but didn't know the regular couples from the swingers and spent all night not approaching anyone and not being approached. (more than likely because they didn't know we were swingers). I could see this working, but the problem is we need to spread the word! Also, where do we get one of these? Besides going to Myrtle Beach! (internet site mabye?)

Any Swingers out there? Golf swingers that is... - - less see... weve rented bars, amusement parks, forests... why not a golf course for a day? are you listening party orginizers?

New Swingers Club in Utah - Gauging interest in new club - [quote=Wildcatz]So I couldn't resist doing some research on the legal side....as we know Utah is a legal mess when it come to sexual issues. But, I did find how a swingers club in Tennessee got around the entire issue....ready for this? They became a church! Religion in Utah has some serious protections and freedoms. Might be the way around the problem..[/quote] That is a good idea! I wonder about the membership idea, don't have a cost to attended but people must buy memberships. I have seen a lot of unique ideas in the tech area. One being membership tokens. These tokens have value and are traded but they can be used for access and services, if the club had no cost but only membership tokens, it may work around the law. Here is how a strip club in Vegas is using them. https://legendsroomlv.com/ Would something like that fly here?

Swingers cars??? - What ya driving?? - SexyRiders and MoxyGurl: We also drive a new Camaro. 2010 2LT model, red jewel and I love it! Hard to believe I've had it 2.5 yrs already. We're totally down for a cruise sometime. Anyone else broken in the 'backseat' of their camaro--talk about difficult!! And we're both just 5'6 and 5'7!

Where do you go have Adult only sexual fun in Vegas... - Sexual fun - Jen and I have been to "on-premises" swingers clubs all over the country. Number one hands down is New Horizons in Seattle. (No single men) . Second place is Freedom Acres, San Bernardino (No single men) and close third is Collette's in New Orleans (No single men). Don't waste your time on the East Coast or Chicago. Sad. In Vegas, each club has negatives, but the best in Vegas BY FAR is the Green Door hands down. We have been to all three on-premises clubs (not counting power exchange) and we will not ever go back to neither the rooster nor Oasis. The Green Door is big. VERY big compared to the other two. Its up-to date, and clean. Clean is very important when it comes to potentially how funky sex can deteriorate to--especially as funky as most of the people are at the Rooster. Now, that doesn't mean we haven't met other HOT couples who lost their way and went to the rooster, but I think we just got lucky. There are some scary effen and out-of-shape folks there. We even saw one loser getting tazed there. The Deco of the place is 70's at best and the high-light of the evening is some guy who croons Neil Diamond songs. Good god. up stairs play room is very small and inadequate. Oasis, bring your own date if you want to play. Very cliquey, very much like Chicago. Now the rooster and the Door both have single guys. But the Single guys at the rooster walk around with dick-in-hand and swarm like sharks. At the door there are a lot more areas where they cannot go but can watch from a distance, and they seem a LOT less tacky. Hope that helps. We love SLC swingers. Its a shame there is no on-premises club there yet.