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KSL swing story - - For those of you guys out of town. This is the transcript from the KSL website. "Everyone has shared their partners with everyone else in the room." "You're in happy valley and you think nothing like that could happen." An Eyewitness News Investigation takes us inside a delicate subject few people like to talk about -- infidelity, couples cheating, in secret, in the open, and joining a movement that appears to be gaining momentum. We heard persistent rumors that spouse-swapping and adultery is commonplace in certain suburban neighborhoods. We discovered those rumors were based on at least some truth. People told us they were being recruited -- marriage counselors say they are seeing more if it. There aren't statistics or easy answers, but it's clear the effects can be devastating. Love, commitment, holy matrimony. In Utah, where marriage vows and family values run deep. Woman: "They said it was more exciting when their spouse was involved." This story will open eyes to something many would like to keep secret. "It was taboo within their religious background." "I thought, this can't be happening here. This is Utah." Sometimes it's kept very quiet, among neighbors and friends. Other times, it's out in the open. Studies show infidelity is to blame for more than half of divorces in Utah. What we found surprised even experts. We knocked on doors, attended a party. We heard stories by phone, by email, but nothing could match what we heard in a pocket of Draper. "Something was wrong with every other neighbor in that neighborhood." Her husband's indiscretions shattered their marriage. "Intensely, intensely painful. It's the hardest thing I've ever been through in my life." The divorce final, he remarried one of their neighbors within a week. It seems adultery ran rampant. Up the block it was consensual with other married neighbors cheating together. People told us they moved to get away from it and stayed inside to avoid it. Across town one woman told us she just wanted to run from it: "Everyone in the room had shared their partners with everyone else in the room. These people had been married five, 10, 20 years." She and her husband were invited to a barbeque with couples from Draper, Provo, Sandy and Salt Lake. A doctor made a move. "He's hitting on me, like he's single, and his wife's sitting right there. I think, there's another motive to this party and it's not just to hang out and meet new people." They got out of there. While there's no data, experts say it's proof of a trend. Vicky Burgess/Ph.D. Clinical Psychologist: "I think, because sexual relations and sex itself is more open, I think we're seeing more of it." We found there are several parties where couples can meet. Randy Chatelain, Ph.D./ Marriage and Family Therapist: "I believe this kind of behavior is going to catch up with a couple, because where does it stop? What more do you have to involve to create the high?" Hundreds of couples pack a popular Sandy nightclub. "A lot of people nowadays have fantasies and they want to fulfill them with their significant other. This is the best way to do that." This man, who asked not to be identified, built a business, helping couples meet at parties. His website suggests spouses can be in love and still enjoy sex with others. "They figure, 'I would much rather do it with the person I love than have them do it behind my back.'" From the looks of it, he's pretty successful. He has 4,000 members living in Utah. How fast is it growing? Four years ago there were 150 members. How common is it? Posing as a married woman, we signed up on a website aimed at so-called "swingers." In six days, 70 married men, most from Utah, ask to start a fling.

Pineapple or upside down pineapple - - Pineapples are definitely a swinger thing! I think it’s somewhat locational where different symbols mean different things. I was in a group for swingers out in like mid-west, they all knew the pineapple was a sign for swinging. Especially if the wife wore like a pineapple anklet or jewelry. Another friend of mine in Colorado belongs to s swingers group called pineapple mixup!

Amusing - Fakes.. ugh.. DESPISE THEM! - Ya, we've had this problem a number of times... but...what makes you So sure it's NOt the girl from the website you mentioned?...are celebrities not allowed to be swingers? just food for thought

swingin - thought this site was a swingers site -

Is this one of your rules? What is it? is it fear? or something - Does everyone feel this way? - Here is a scenario for you....................Your out of town, on vacation, you meet that elusive "unicorn" the single bi-female, shes HOT, she willing, and shes on her way out of town. You only have one shot at it, do you turn to this rare find, that is ready to fulfill all those single fem fantasies, and say "Sorry hunny, but we gotta be friends first"? Or do you throw your caution to the wind and go ahead and fuck on the first date? Its not hard to find a reason to break a rule, and if there are reasons to break them, why have them? Why not let the moment dictate? Or is this just an excuse that people use instead of being honest about not wanting to have sex with someone? Or is it an excuse you tell yourselves to not have to go thru with being real swingers? Just a couple more questions I had.

Girls that are into DP - How common is this activity among the swingers? - [quote=NAUGHTYGIRL101][quote=HARD_STONE][quote=EDANY0178]DVP? [/quote] I'll take either opening that I'm allowed in. [img]http://www.swingular.com/photos/h/HARD_STONE%7B19832287654f28ccd1ec598%7D.jpg[/img] [/quote] Uummm...i think this is one topic that "just average" would be an advantage...at least for us less "experienced" girls lol... [/quote] Either one of you ladies would be a pleasure.

Adulter or Swinger? - - I'll probably catch a lot of flack for what I'm about to say but here goes. SWINGING is or was started by servicemen in the late 50 and early 60's . Two MARRIED couples would SWAP wives for the night. Generally, the odd couples would repair to different rooms and play. The only thing sharred about it was that they had swapped... Then it progressed to parties and shoe parties or key parties and couples would go with the person whos shoe or keys they would get from the pile. Over the years single women were welcomed into the swinger ranks since swinging/swapping had evolved to simply recreational sex.... They were welcomed because women were looking for bi sexual experiences and men like the idea of 2 on one and watching women together. Enter the single men.... When I was younger we called young single men and women getting together dating... Now we have singles "dating" swingers???? Enter the married guy who isnot happy with what he has at home and thinks swinging is a legal/moral way to get strange.... Bottom line one needs to be married or in a committed relationship to cheat. Cheating is where one of the couple goes out and plays with someone other than their partner.... So for a married woman, not in a "relationship" to have sex with anyone, another single, randomly is not cheating but in a very broad sense, is in fact swinging. I would also say that one could also say that that person is dating.... regardless of the sexual connotations. One thing to note here is that swinging has evolved to something more than recreational sex. It now has the connotation of friends or friendship involved. In fact, there are actually people who wish to have closed sexual relations with one or more couples. Exclusive in nature where each couple involved only has sex with their partner and with ONLY people who have agreed that they willl do the same... So cheating is the only cut and dried issue... Non consensual sex with other than ones own partner of a committed relationship. The rest is either dating or swinging/swapping... I'm sure we all knew this but it needs to be reiterated from time to time...

Meet n Greet - Swingers Meet n Greet - Check out the party section. We are Hosting a Meet and Greet tonight at Evolution Cabaret 11011 US Hwy 41 in Gibsonton Fl. Couples are free cover, Single Males and Single Females are $5.00. Come out and join the fun. Dress is Casual. Make sure you tell the door person you are here for the meet n greet

Another Swingers Show on TV - - [quote=BRATCAT70]We have Dish Network and have been unable to find either the series, SECRET SEX LIVES: SWINGERS, or the channel, Discovery Fit & Health. Can anybody help?[/quote] I DONT KNOW THE CHANNEL, (we have DirecTv) we used to have Dish so I DO KNOW that you can use, as long as you have a box you can use your remote and you search the show by name and select it. HOPE THAT HELPS,Jenny!!

ARE THEY REAL? - - I really don't understand why we have little luck with COUPLES. We are a REAL couple, who really swing, and really want to meet people. So thinking on it I have come up with a couple of reasons why. Maybe its because we are NOT interested in single fems? I have noticed that the majority of females on here are BI, and I am not, so I think that could have an impact on our success with having couples want to meet us. I think the MAJOR problem we have had is with Geography, we are down in in No-swingers land and to make the drive to SLC to meet someone who "doesn't play on the first date" or "wants to be friends first" is just not going to happen. Not sluts, but then again, yes we are! We are in this for the Sex I'm not gonna lie to ya! We don't want to make 2 trips to SLC on a maybe. I'm not going to tell you we have never met anyone on this site, just that we don't really EXPECT to anymore, haven't given up yet, but we are feeling like its kind of a lost cause sometimes. I think the forum is fun enough to keep up on, great pics and stories, I don't have any swinger friends so I love the interaction of it. I will probably always be here couple times a week, raising hell! ~K~