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Abbreviations - MWC , hwp, ddf (DD free) and LOL - Hi there. As there are several international swingers member by now, is it possible to explain a few of these abbreviations used by US couples in their profile? MWC , hwp, ddf (DD free) and LOL are some of them we see. Would be a great help. A hug from overseas! Bea and Alex

member profiles - - [quote=CHEFFETTE][quote=EVILDOERS]Now now, CHEFFETTE. Don't get yourself in a tizzy. Remember your blood pressure. Also remember that some people don't consider SINGLES as swingers. They just consider it hooking up. Now make yourself a nice cup of Chamomile tea or a Xanax smoothie and take a little nap. You'll feel MUCH better and then you can rip those damned cheaters a new asshole all night long. [em]Emo_49[/em] [/quote] Seems to me they have all the asshole they could ever need. You're right that some singles (ahem, me) aren't considered swingers b/c they don't hook up w/ couples, but the context of this thread is a website for married people wanting to cheat. [/quote] Actually I wasn't referring necessarily to singles who don't hook up with couples. I was referencing that old couples (okay mostly married guys who aren't bi) argument that swingles don't bring as much (or anything, depending on who you're talking to) to the table. Personally we think anyone can call themselves a swinger...and some actually are regardless of their marital status. Whether or not they truly have a swinger's mindset is something altogether different. Some singles do, many don't. And to be fair, there are couples who don't either.

Know any Mormon swingers in SoCal? - Single girl in SoCal wants to know! - Yeah, no...I think she just has a garment fetish. [em]Emo_67[/em] LOL

upside down pineapple? - - sometimes a 'pineapple' can indicated a cannibals enthusiast I image the results of any accidental overlap of swingers & freaks would be hilarious

The only problem... - - What really amazes me is how many people are 69. We belong to this and a few other sites and there are TONS of couples who are EXACTLY 69 years old. What are the odds?!!? Must be like THE sweet spot (age wise) for swinging. ;-) So do old swingers get like a swinging pension when they retire? Is there an AARP for old swingers? Can you get a Jazzie with a Sybian attachment on the seat?

What about the lifestyle didn't meet your expectations? - Preconceptions and disappointment. - I'm home bored, so stop here if you don't want to read a bunch of shite. lol. I think we both entered the lifestyle with some preconceived notions of what the people in the LS would be like, but that was mostly from our limited experience with being vanilla and having LS peeps try to hit on us. It just seemed creepy, desperate and gross at the time. We assumed most of the players would be super aggressive, ready to fuck anyone and have zero interest in relationships outside of sex. Our initial entry was simply to watch and be watched. We quickly learned that there are just as many wonderful people in the LS as out of it. Maybe more. There will always be the outliers, the few percentage on each end of the spectrum that are more extreme, but that happens in any population. Overall, it was a happy surprise. So that would be a negative expectation that wasn't met. As far as things we were hoping would happen or expectation that weren't met, we have very few. But we also went into the labyrinth without really expecting or assuming anything. I don't think we were naive enough to think that this segment of the population was somehow immune from the social characteristics that reveal themselves in any other social class or group. You will always have the "cool kids" the "shy people" the "jocks" the "geeks" the people who classify themselves as the "pity party" and blame the world for their problems. Those things will exist anywhere and should. Swingers are a diverse group of people with a few, maybe very few, common goals. Those goals I think are to meet others with social deviancy and those interested in expanding their sexual experiences or simply to meet new friends. Swinging, in itself, doesn't solidify your beliefs in anything else (politics, food preferences, choice of travel location, or even how or what you are looking for as swingers). I think that is where expectations can fail. If a person goes into a situation thinking, "I/we think "x" so everyone else must think "x" as well", they are bound to be disappointed. I've said this a lot of times, the lifestyle is not black and white. Life isn't black and white. There will be frustrations around every turn if you allow yourself to be duped into thinking your way of thinking is more than just your viewpoint, that it is universal to everyone. I see people complaining of flakes, people who meet once then run away, etc. That's how they roll. That's their truth. It's what they are comfortable with or wanting and who am I to judge. That being said, I don't have to associate with them and hopefully learn how to avoid that situation or become more efficient at finding people with similar interests. The lifestyle is work. Sometimes a lot of work. I think it's foolish to think that it should be easy to find 4 people who all jive. Think about how many people you have dated before settling on the right one for you. And to assume that somehow changes in the lifestyle and that after chatting on kik for a few weeks then meeting over drinks will somehow magically connect you. Ugh. Sometimes it happens. Sometimes not. But I wouldn't expect it. For others, the thought of any connection past the one-nighter is absurd. Why would you want to make friends with your fuck-buddies? It may be too risky and cause too many emotions. Point is, we are all different and that is what makes the journey so beautiful. And, just a note about flakes, since it is a recurrent theme. Yes, maybe there are more flakes in the lifestyle, but I'm guessing it's specifically related to the nature of the LS. Swinging for some can be very intimidating and frightening. Sometimes the chase is much more fun than the fucking. Not excusing them that do flake, it seems a problem for sure, but I think I understand, at least in part, why it happens so much. There is so much social pressure not to be in the lifestyle and most were brought up without it being the normal way to live. So society is telling us we are wrong, gross, deviant, etc. Add to that the fear of actually getting naked and fucking someone else and it can cause a lot of anxiety in some. When we first started we were petrified to even go the parties thinking it was going to be a fuck/rape fest. lol. Turned out we were wrong but it was a learning process. Lastly, if you are already treading carefully and the couple/person you are supposed to be meeting gives off any bad vibes, maybe flaking is best. It's hard not to hurt someone's feelings and honesty isn't always what happens. I know we have been honest with couples and it turned into a shit-show. Why don't you like us? If you only meet us and give us a chance we can prove we are wonderful. Other's like us, why don't you. It's hard to be honest at times about why there isn't a connection. May flaking be a way to spare feelings? I don't know. There are probably a plethora (Hefe, do you know what a plethora is?)of reasons people flake and some of those my be that they are just douches. But likely there are other people that aren't and are just trying to get out of a situation they are unfamiliar with. Avoid the douches but maybe give those others a second chance. Evil: always good topics you bring to the table. So you think because people like sex they should be good at it? I know a lot of people who love food but suck at cooking. haha. Maybe having too many options on the table can also make people lazy. I don't have to try hard if I know tomorrow is another partner. To some it's the quantity and not the quality. But I can see why the expectation would be there. All in all we really have no complaints. It's been a fascination journey. Some ups, some downs, but always and adventure. We will keep our expectations low, both of ourselves and those around us. Less disappointment that way. I'm going back to sitting in my underwear, drinking a beer and watching TV. Zero expectations. haha. :) Mr. SRO

Open-mindedness - - I see open mindedness a bit situational for most people and while each has their own levels of diversity openness most still tend to set limits. However the observation about the lack of acceptance of bi males or non bi females in the lifestyle does seem out of context with our actions that reach out for sexual freedom. I saw one discussion in another swingers web site about gay marriage and I was somewhat surprised at how many swingers were defending the

Why do people.... - Booty calls - Actually, I know my first post sounded like it was ok, and a good way to find potential opportunities, but really it does seem kind of strange to be posting everyday...understand it is annoying to read the same booty calls over and over. My thought is, their post(s) really only affects them, and has no real impact on us. We have some good friends that we enjoy time with. Occasionally we like to meet new people mostly just to share some time and create new friendships, but it is not the end of the world not to meet new couples. We probably don't upgrade and change up our profile like many do, but our advertising approach is more like the kids putting up a sign at their lemonade stand, rather than the Lexus commercials; mostly because we are very comfortable with our life as it is. If we were making a living off of our profile we would probably prune it, and hire someone to make me (Mr. Karma)look good. Maybe even bring in a PR firm to find some power words so everyone would wet themselves reading our profile, but eh...love ya' all. Isn't it great that we are all different? Can you imagine with all the vast diversity and differences in this world, if it was only swingers that were all exactly alike? Yuk!

Swingers cars??? - What ya driving?? - Today up towards Solitude...

Back to school party **naughty lil school girl night** - club screamers downtown orlando aug 3rd 9pm-3am - Ohfantasy & Next swingers party presents: That time of the year to put those little naughty school girl outfits back on and attend classes again. That's right we will be doing our naughty school girl party come sexy in your outfits or come as a sexy teacher.Class will be held at club Screamers Downtown Orlando.The last school girl party was sexy as heck let's make this one even sexier. Club Screamers is located at 360 State Lane orlando fl 32801.(407-244-0299) It's located right behind the big Bldg of the Bank of America.If staying over night there is a hotel few blocks away Travel Lodge (407-423-1671) This is a private party at the club it will be for our use only people in the Lifestyle.So come join us and our hottest dj in the lifestyle plus 2 full bars and hottest music today.Remember this is a non pressure party and NO SINGLE MALES ALLOWED!!