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Are swingers moral? - Who determines what morals are? - There's so much to write here, so I think I'll just bring up two points. In my experience, someone who has realized Atheism through careful and philosophical thought, tend to be much more moral than theists. Furthermore, the bible has to be the worst script imaginable to derive ones moral bearings--especially the old testament. If taken literally, the bible has many examples where rape, genocide, incest, and much more are excusable under certain conditions.

FUCK going to the gym! - - [quote=EVILDOERS]Uh...I was pretty much kidding people. I don't think firing up a fattie and listening to Pink Floyd is gonna replace the squat rack any time soon. Just thought the study was interesting because SO many people (well prolly not quite as many swingers) around these parts are so anti weed. All I know is that I've never been punched by somebody who was high on weed. Alcohol on the other hand...[/quote] I was about to say if you two look the way you do from being stoned constantly, then I'd quit the gym and subscribe to your methods ;)

Young swingers party - sold out, who still wants to party ? - It's funny how it says young swingers party for those under 45. Such a percentage of the peeps who RSVP'd are over that, or are lying.

Ways to point out Swingers in public - - I too have had this question SO many times! Not only do I wish I had “Swingdar” as 1DIVA put it, but I wish I could tell which women were into other women! Life would be so much easier if I could read minds...

Hollywood Swingers? - - Are you kidding? Most of the people on this site haven't confessed, and we don't have the media breathing down our necks and digging through our trash!! Can you imagine, put me on the list that get to swing with Brad and Angelina!!!Whoop Whoop!!

Rants and Raves. - Tell us your rant and rave for the week.... - swingers need to vent too, we can't all breathe through our ears....

Swingers Kickball Society - - I haven't played since grade school. Sounds like fun. count us in.

Swingers Rock Club - Live music, Dancing, and Sexy Friends - We'll be there if we can find a baby-sitter... It's John's Birthday Too...!!! PARTY...!!!

Girls that are into DP - How common is this activity among the swingers? - I absolutely LOVE DVP. Regular DP is not an option considering my ass would would declare mutiny but the feel of 2 rock hard cocks in my vagina is just one of those OH MY GOD feelings that makes me tingle for hours. But if you aren't secure enough to cross swords then you prolly wouldn't be very good at giving her pleasure while it's happening. I really really really need to do it again and SOON. Ironically....I won't have kids tonight. Who wants to cooperate? ;) xox Tammy

Single Men Meeting Couples - Are Single Men Treated Un Fairly In The Lifestyle - In an earlier response someone wrote: ______________________________________________________________________________ *** Short & Sweet: In our opinion, we don't view single men in the swinging lifestyle as swingers - more like single men wanting to have easy sex (most of them anyway) with someone else's wife. They bring nothing to the "table" that another man "within a couple" could bring. *** ______________________________________________________________________________ What anyone brings to the table in the lifestlye is highly subjective; it would greatly depend on what you were looking for in the first place wouldnt it? While we have met quite a few single men who were lying assholes, we have also met as many who were complete gentleman who earned our respect and trust. As for having "easy" sex with someone else's wife...well, it shouldnt be all that easy should it? That is, unless we as couples are as indiscriminate as the single men are about with whom we have sexual relations. What is the proverbial "table" anyway? What you bring to the "table" is YOU, or yourselves if you are a couple. What you have to offer can only be valued by those who would recognize and appreciate your contribution. It isn't a swap meet. (My wife for your wife.) That is a classic misconception about who we are and what we do as lifestylers. During the "key " parties of the 70's this was the general attitude, but those days are gone. We are a much more sophisticated breed now, who have exprienced a sexual evolution unlike anything our parents could have imagined, thanks to the addition of the internet and sites like this one. There are GAY swinging couples comprised of 2 MEN. We have no desire to date them, but we do not disagree with their right to participate....Are they swingers? Absolutely! Why not? They seek what we do for all of the same reasons. Who are we to determine their place, or value in the lifestyle? A lot of couples take a very narrow view on this subject, which to me is very sad. I am here to tell you that the word "swinger" is absolutely NOT synonymous with the phrase "wife swapper". That archaic, stupid phrase only hurts us as lifestylers, and is not truly representative of who we are, and what we do. "Threesome" does not ONLY imply 2 women and a man. We come in all flavors, with varying desires and fantasies to fullfill. Many times (and we have seen this too many times to count in the last 13 years swinging) it is the MAN of the COUPLE who is too insecure to allow HIS wife to be with another man, 3some or couple! So they only date single women... or attempt to atleast. LoL. I am not saying that this is true for everyone. But I have seen it too many times to count. The hypocrisy is staggering. Everyone makes choices, and we are all free to make them. We do not judge those who choose to only date couples. YES, there are single male assholes in the world. The fact that they are single does NOT make them a health risk. Swinging COUPLES have far more sex than ANY of the single men I know! Most of the COUPLES we know have done things in the clubs that these poor guys can only jerk off too in their dreams, with far far more regularity. A well dressed, well mannered, MATURE, professional male who is not cheating on his spouse, looking to attempt cause trouble in someone's marriage, and wants to have a great time with an honest couple is out there. We have met scores of them! Police officers, doctors, lawyers, business professionals....you cant sell me that they are all midnight "corner store" Johns looking for a cheap sexual fix with any pussy that comes along. Geesh, guys have standards too. I have FAR MORE sex than ANY single man I know! And so do the rest of you couples! Unless ofcourse they are college kids, and then....come on! What wild and crazy college aged 22 year old man ISNT looking for pussy in bars and strip clubs? Is THAT who you would swing with anyway? If there were as many single women swinging as single men, there would be quite a few single WOMEN assholes out there too. We live right next to The University of Maryland, so I employ some of the biggest hookers I have seen anywhere, anytime. I say, pick through the weeds, be selective about with whom you have sex (shouldn't we anyway?), and let the chips fall where they may. Thats what the lifestyle is all about. Just my $1.25... Luvbugs! (mR.) ;)