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single males - - Thank you for opening the topic. I hope that it will be used shed some insight and not just complain. In a place like Habits there are vanilla singles that have no clue that swingers congregate there. So there will naturally be more problem in that environment than a private party. At a house party the only people that should be there are those that are invited by the host and hostess. Every one of the guests should have known the rules or etiquette of this lifestyle. If you had complaints, they should have been addressed last night with the hosts. Evidently the balance you were looking for was not there. Sadly it is difficult for most singles to figure out how to talk to a swinging couple. There are no schools or training centers to teach this. As a single male, conversation at a vanilla party with a couple is much easier. Most often the men and women separate and we talk with one or the other without expectations on either side. Sometimes conversation is just conversation. I find that making friends is generally more difficult in this lifestyle because of the sexual expectations of many. I think that you will find a number of the single men, after getting the cold shoulder from many husbands, find it easier to attempt to talk to the women because they lack the skills to talk with both. It is a mistake but it is also part of the learning process. There is no excuse for rude behavior on the part of the single male but neither is there an excuse for the typical married male attitude. Single males are always and have always been a pariah and dam few couples want them at any party. I came into this lifestyle as a single male looking to make male friends to hang with that would help me understand the rules. I found most of the males were cold and suspicious and difficult to talk with. I was not looking for women to play with nearly as much as I was looking for a girlfriend that was already in the lifestyle. But I am sure that as far as most were concerned all I wanted to find was their wife

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Pink flamingo - How many swingers have a pink flamingo in their front yard? - oohh. i like those!

CIVIL RIGHTS - How it can affect swinging. -

Young swingers party - sold out, who still wants to party ? - ...and the sign said long haired freaky people need not apply or those 45 and older. So...heading to Vegas for AVN weekend and four incredible nights of parties put on by PURRFECTLV. Anyone else leaving the great state of Utah for the real deal? Party like a Porn Star! Alexis Park - Parthenon Ballroom Massive 15,000 sq. foot ballroom transformed to an upscale sexy lounge complete with large dance floor, multiple stripper stages, go-go cages, ultra lounge furniture, state-of-the-art lighting and sound. Multiple Bars throughout.

Appropriate Parameters of Sexual Conduct in Modern Society - Should sex still have a unique status or just be another hobby? - Beard, You did open something up but I'm not sure what. I had to copy and paste your original here so I didn't miss or get too confused.. One of your last points first: Moral refers to standards as defined by the church, the government or your neighbors(in light of the Supreme Court decission a few years ago about porn) Ethics, on the other hand are something that we define for ourselves based on our upbringing/environment and values that we have defined based on whatever we base them on. You are right that marriage is a concept designed by religion and the government for the care of offspring and the clear definition of linage for property rights. You use the term marriage, which is a legal term like it is a moral imperative then ask if it should be based on some one or group of common interrests. Then the next breath you suggest that marriage is supposed to be more than any of that and something to do with sharing and intimacy. Finally you go back to somehow trying to make a point, (I'm not sure what that point was) that maybe there should be a conglomerate of reasons for marriage then with the nesxt breath you ask if sex should be forbidden.. Now lets see if this makes any sense to anyone. I'm poly and We swing. I have a lover who is married and her husband knows or us(he is not poly) and B knows of us and we are all good friends. We are, my lover and I, intimate both emotionally and sexually and both non poly mates knowof this. B and I are very much soulmates but then my lover is also very close to that as well. I do not wish to take her away from her husband and I do not wish to replace B. She does not want to replace her husband with me and we are alll OK with that arrangement. In my heart of heart I am married to both in a very intimate way although I do not wish to procreate with anyone anymore. She feels the same way toward me. I would submit that marriage is an intimate, emotional and sometimes physical union of people.. I did not say two people I said people. We have been taught sex as a negative thing and relationships with more than one as a negative thing because we cannot love more than one person or more than one at any one time... I submit that we can love more than one and that the more we love the more we get back from that... Swinging is started off as fun between close friends and sometimes the term wife swapping became a reality.... Sex is fun adn swinging is about sex and today alot of times about relationships. Relationships in my opinion are for the benefit of everyone involved... . So I'm not sure if I understood where you were going but this is my take on the propositions as I understood them. Depending on any person's opinion or preferences sex and love can be the same or they can be separate or they can be coincidental but it's basically up to that person or couple to make that determination.... We, in the lifestyle, may ultimately be right and marriage may change to a more contractual thing rather than some sacrosanct BS that it has become.... Swingers as a group have more than 3.4 time greater chance of remaining married than that of non swingers. The range of failed marriages is between 66 and 77% in all first and second marriages and some 70% of all married people cheat on their mates. Swinger have a better than 85% chance of marriage survival. Cheating is not exempt in Swinging but I think is is greatly reduced... I think as swingers we have sex with friends and it can be just that or it can be more... at least for me..

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Swingers In Uniform - Pay your memorial day respects here. - It's funny how you keep babbling yet you take no stance. You are a self proclaimed hero, let's hear you feats? You are an idiot that feints depth of character, education and culture. You speak as though you are the intellectual, yet you say nothing of substance. You are all smoke & mirrors. You are a false front to a steaming pile of bullshit with an explosive sewer of hot air for replies. Let it go you single, no pussy gettin, pathetic coward. Look at our pics. Then look at yours... Wait you don't have one. FURTHER PROOF YOU ARE A FUCKING COWARD GETTIN NO ACTION! Then see who is hurting socially and who isn't. You are a fuckin joke. The very fact that I still got you buzzin around my thread shows me your drawn to drama like a woman to a soap opera. You are a weak-minded hypocrite. You are a gutless and witless turd. So keep the stupidity comin'. I want this to be on the frontpage for a good while so people can see you for who you are. A pathetic small-dicked loser with delusions of grandeur and a chip on his/her shoulder. How much you gettin lately Mr. Quixote? Do tell. I wanna know how much attention you been gettin from whatever species your attracted to. It can't be a human female, given your status with the ladies and the fact that you are a social retard. It's funny how facts work. It shows how talk is just that.... Talk. You can keep talking all you want, but I'll always be the victor. I have everyone on swingular, save one pathetic douche bag, siding with my ideals. You are still alone on your couch, eating cheetos and knuckling your piss pump. Have fun with that. Pshhh yeah. D&T P.S. Damn that had to hurt.

Lava - - [quote=MoreFun4U]The Blue Moon Bar in Lava Hot Springs collapsed today. https://www.ktvb.com/article/news/local/2-people-rescued-after-bar-roof-collapses-in-lava-hot-springs-march-1/277-1c46b7dd-61ef-430c-b0b1-5403eed59889[/quote]Where do all the swingers go now? Is there another bar that even comes close to this one?

Only In Utah - - I'm thinking their next series might be called "Mormon Virgins and Swingers". [em]Emo_67[/em]