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Is this one of your rules? What is it? is it fear? or something - Does everyone feel this way? - 242,
We (Tami and I) have never ran across anyone that said they didn't want to have sex and only wanted to make friends. We have ran across those that want to be friends (have trust established), first. The latter I can totally understand, as we are two people that require trust in people we play with. We also find attraction in the personality and minds of the individual. Have there been exceptions for us? Yes, however, we have found that "spur of the moment" play was unsatisfying and regrettable.
We try not to label people. We just avoid those that are into something we are not. Just as a couple not into anal sex would avoid sexual contact with those seeking anal. We avoid those that want to hook-up on first meetings without inhibition. Why? There are forceful individuals, there are deviants, there are bi-sexual males that think they can touch without permission, there are people who drug others, there are people that smoke pot and others that can't be around it due to their profession. The latter doesn't have to end a friendship as we happen to be in professions that don't allow exposure, we just had to perfect a little dance with our pot smoking friends.
Many people view this as a "lifestyle". We certainly view the "free thought and expression" as a "lifestyle" but the "sex with others", is a recreational thing that we can turn on and off like a switch. Sometimes we feel like playin with our swingers buddies and sometimes we just like talking, drink and having other types of fun with them. Swingers or "Libertines", as I like to refer to them, are mostly "free thinker" types so I like to interact with them on other levels as well. Though there are still those types that only swing for the sex and still have closed minds in regard to everything else. Those are the types I find strange. How you can be a conservative swinger is beyond me. However, I respect anyone's desire to fuck. So I do not judge. I just decide who fucks me and my wife. That's all. We all can't be compatible with everyone on all levels, all the time. It's impossible.
Whether it's fucking or writing in the forum, there is always gonna be someone that doesn't like you. Trust me, I know this first hand. So, like ole Rick Nelson once said... You can't please everyone, so you got to please yourself. That's a rule to fuckin live by.
-Don-
Swinging capitol of USA - What state is the Swinging Capitol of USA and why? - We read in Playboy a few years ago believe it or not but per population Michigan has or had more swingers then any other state in the union. I guess it gets pretty hot up there in the winter.
Divorce rates - How do we compare - Accurate stats on this would be tough to get because of who would answer honestly that they were swinging before getting divorced - but you could probably get close and our bet would be that its pretty close to 50/50??
Having said that, I guess we're going to skew the stats negatively towards the swingers since we plan on getting divorced as soon as all the kids are grown. We dont believe that marriage is needed to prove ones love and commitment for each other. We we're successful at this for the first 7 years, and 2 kids; (bastards - lol) of our relationship. But back in the day before GLBT(P) started fighting for equal rights, insurance companies wouldn't cover "straight" partners either, so we got married to get coverage, among some of the other rights that might pertain to our children.
We have no problem with others getting married to extend their love for one another and we celebrate it. However, we absolutely detest governments using marriage as a tool to control the masses and their choice of romantic endeavors with each other - the rights that straight couples also loose from this should have many more people up in arms about it!
This is one of the problems that has aided in the distortion of what love, marriage and true friendship really is which in turn causes more divorce... and people that CANT HANDLE SWINGING.
How to find other swingers - - THE COLORED wristbands what a fantastic idea....
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Swinging with Vanillas - Any success stories? - [quote=EVILDOERS]I know this probably won't be a very popular point of view but I kind of have a problem with vanilla hunting. If you meet some vanillas and talk to them, hell tell them you are swingers or whatever, and they're interested and then you leave it there and they have time to go home and consider what you've told them and make a sober rational decision then great. Where the line becomes blurred to me is approaching vanillas in say a bar situation where there is plenty of alcohol or whatever and then sort of guiding (pushing?) them into a situation where they might not be thinking completely rationally. I think the majority of us probably approached swinging from the perspective of making a conscious decision to try it out or whatever before we were put in a situation where sexual play might happen. I just think it's only fair for others to have that same consideration "space" if you will before they jump into something they might not be ready to handle. Swinging is great. We have and awesome little hobby that is DEFINITELY not for everyone no matter how much we think it should be. The truth is very few people can actually handle the intense dynamics of swapping spouses. JMO[/quote]
Had the same uncomfortable thought when I read this post
Young swingers party - sold out, who still wants to party ? - [quote=ERASEDPANTS][quote=EVILDOERS](cough*suckup*cough)[/quote]
Indeed. We suck up, we suck down, otherwise you lose that "vacuum seal" and it's just not as pleasurable. Ha! [/quote]
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Swingers Vacation Spots - Help us - We would like to hit europe.. preticular sweeden and or amsterdam. They have whole villages dedicated to swingers and elaborate swinger hotels. Hedo seems nice with the tropics and all but we are a disney world type of couple that like the 1 way mirrors and the dungeon rooms ect... Hedo seems like just a resort setting with swingers.
Why so much hate in the swingers world... - - Thanks doctor bunny... er I mean Ziggy. LOL!
;-)
-D-
is this legit?? - - Discretion (as basically defined by Websters Dictionary )
1: The quality of being discreet, cautious
2:Ability to make responsible decisions
3a: INDIVIDUAL CHOICE OR JUDGEMENT, to make responsible decisions
b: POWER OF FREE DECISION of choice
4: the result of separating or distinguishing
Discretionary
1: Left to discretion; excersing at one's own discretion
Swinger
1: One that swings as
a: a lively up-to-date person who indulges in what is considered fashionable
b: one who engages freely in sex
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Where some may want to be part of this documentary,
that is your INDIVIDUAL CHOICE OF JUDGEMENT, AND POWER OF FREE DECISION
some of us may not feel being part of a television documentary fits into our lives,
that is our INDIVIDUAL CHOICE OF JUDGEMENT, AND POWER OF FREE DECISION
We are swingers, that means we openly engage freely in sex, which is an act of discretion in itself, one most of us throughly enjoy,
that does not mean that being non-discreet means we must exploit our personal lives on the television.
But if that is your decision. Have a great time doing it!
oh and let us all know when the eposide airs, as i am sure many of us would like to see it. lol
just my 2 cents
xoxo
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