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Do you long for your "vanilla" friends? - Have you been with any? - [quote=theseduction747]Being new to Utah I can not imagine how you deal with friends here with all the LDS people here. But it appears there are more LDS that have a secret side than people realize. Now how to find that out may be the trick. I always cut up and joke so they would be able to get the hint so they could decide on making the move or not. If you comment in a fun way in a joking environment eventually information will start being revealed. If not they are probably not into it and you can always excuse it as joking or cutting up. lol I have found out more than I wanted to know from some friends of ours over the years. Even some we had no interest in. It is just my nature to cut up a make funny comments. So they get comfortable talking back. That can backfire too lol. [/quote]
The feeling we've gotten from chatting privately with people here is that a good percentage of swingers in Utah are indeed LDS, whether active or inactive. Appears too a good number are former LDS members cutting loose. With no judgement or disrespect to the LDS reading this, I find it fascinating.
At any rate, thanks for the post and good idea with joking around.
I'm a hater. Will you be a hater too? - Warning, the rats ass just ranted all over the floor! - Awwww 22PLAY....BIG HUG!!! :-) People don't realize that in Utah you can have a pretty big swingers party with just two couples....since we all have seven wives! ;-)
Evild
swingin - thought this site was a swingers site -
E'one,
This guy doesn't want to reason. He just wants to bitch to hear himself bitch. I am just going to continue talking about what I want and they can deal with it. Their crying didn't stop any of us. I say leave him to cry by himself in this pathetic thread.
-Don-
"Ich habe einen kleinen Vogel in meinem Kopf."
Note: Best if viewed with Microsoft Internet Explorer version 7swingin - thought this site was a swingers site -
WAAA1101 & CLASSYNOTTRASHY,
No one is telling you to leave. What we are saying is... If you don't like the subject of the thread, move on. You are claiming that it is impossible for you to accomplish this. Classy, you used the word "Forum Police". Remember, WAAA1101 is the one who started this thread trying to get everyone to stop posting threads that didn't have to do with sex. That is textbook "policing". Furthermore Classy, you, like WAAA, make it your regular business to complain about others and what they choose to converse about. I think things would get better if you quit complaining about threads you don't like and involve yourself in the ones you do. You are the ones being intolerant of us. We have heard that you are "unhappy" with the thread and why. To me, your unhappiness seems to stem from your inability to control what people talk about here.
WAAA1101, you tell me if I don't like explicit photos to, "get over it". I do "get over it", by not going to the theads that contain them or starting them myself. I think you need to "get over" our threads. You need to practice what you preach. Live and let live. So far it is people like you and Classy that are breaking the forum policy, by trying to stifle free speech. You two are the ones that are trying to get others to stop talking. We are not going to stop talking about what we want, because you don't like it. The majority has spoken, we want to talk about anything we choose. You can't justify your intolerance.
-Don-
"Ich habe einen kleinen Vogel in meinem Kopf."
Note: Best if viewed with Microsoft Internet Explorer version 7Swingers clubs in Amsterdam - - While we are on the subject of recommendations, would you be able to recommend any good clubs in the Houston area? I find myself there semi-frequently these days.
Thanks,
Jim
Poly-Swingers - Moving beyond FWB relationship - [quote=T4REAL69]I for one am still not clear what the input is the OP is seeking (and yes I realize he asked this of poly couples)? OP are you asking how you should proceed in the relationship seeing how feelings have developed to a deeper level then just the casual? [/quote]
Just curious as to what other Non monogamous couples' have experienced when strong emotional bonds to people other than one's spouse has emerged.
weight approperate - - well I know this is going to start a shit storm.
But we look at it like this
1..sexstarved husbands and he's running the show.
2..he wants some strange pussy,but god forbid she gets any.
3..then you have the real swingers that could careless either way.
personally to us whats good for him is good for her.
you know who you are, so don't kidd yourself.
and as beening height and weight proportionate
thats rare for most swingers.
my hubby's a voyuer he rather watch then play,
you can kinda say he likes sloppy seconds LOL
kristylynn
Cupled MEN - Info - It's not just a Utah thing. But this site has it the most since couple v single males for a lot of us old time swingers we've learned to adapt to the changes screen all request piture or not and weed out the not real head gamers to where others still think its couples only hobby.
Swingers Dares - Text for cards in the game - HMMM KT that one is very good, only YOU can think of something as erotic as that... Can we choose ALL OF THE ABOVE? lol
Extramarital Affairs and the Lifestyle - Where do you stand? - **Bottom line here is can we just stop all the finger pointing, labeling, and judging? Morals are a personal thing and eveyone is entitled to theirs and I\'m of the mind set...don\'t force yours down my throat and I won\'t force mind down yours.**
Wrong. No one is interested in passing judgement here. Simply stating the facts as they are.
Also, I think that some of us have returned to the cheating vs swingnig morality issue that we agreed earlier was NOT the intended direction this thread was going in. The issue IS a moral one, as someone pointed out. However it isnt whether or not CHEATING is the same as SWINGING.
Since the thread has been joined by so many other now (AND I THANK YOU GUYS FOR STEPPING UP AND SHARING!) several differing points of view have emerged.
Some \"vanilla\" or traditional people attempt to convince their mates to swing (MALE OR FEMALE) and for whatever eason that partner says NO. That person can not accept this answer for whatever reason, and decides it is worth risking everything they hold dear to swing.
We have explored that.
On the other hand, other \"vanilla\" people HAVE NEVER, AND WOULD NEVER EVEN ATTEMPT TO BROACH THE SUBJECT TO THEIR MATES. For fear of hearing NO, for fear of divorce...whatever...These same people, as one of our single gentleman pointed out...would look down upon us and label us sinners for being \"SWINGERS\" and all that they quite incorrectly feel that entails, and then in the same breath, go out and CHEAT on their mates. (I know one where she cheated on her husband with the pasteur of their church!)
Cheating is actually more accpetable than swinging to a LOT of \"vanilla\" people. To share their mate, agree on the format, and practice an open dialogue about it is unthinkable.
To cheat is not.
>>TO ADDRESS THE CHEATING SWINGER ISSUE AGAIN<<
This was never meant to single out you single guys out there, and I am not going to defend this post, or our stand on it. If you have read our profile, you should understand that we date single men and women almost exclusively! We just prefer to know the TRUTH about your situation, and beleive it or not, in this lifestyle...that is a tall order.
As someone else said, that is a choice each of you has to make. We would prefer to know the truth about your situation so that we can decide to say NO for fear of creating hurt feelings and contributing to the end of a relationship that we are not even a part of. My mind will not allow me to justify what my heart knows to be just plain wrong.
Luvbugs!
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