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Divorce rates - How do we compare - Accurate stats on this would be tough to get because of who would answer honestly that they were swinging before getting divorced - but you could probably get close and our bet would be that its pretty close to 50/50?? Having said that, I guess we're going to skew the stats negatively towards the swingers since we plan on getting divorced as soon as all the kids are grown. We dont believe that marriage is needed to prove ones love and commitment for each other. We we're successful at this for the first 7 years, and 2 kids; (bastards - lol) of our relationship. But back in the day before GLBT(P) started fighting for equal rights, insurance companies wouldn't cover "straight" partners either, so we got married to get coverage, among some of the other rights that might pertain to our children. We have no problem with others getting married to extend their love for one another and we celebrate it. However, we absolutely detest governments using marriage as a tool to control the masses and their choice of romantic endeavors with each other - the rights that straight couples also loose from this should have many more people up in arms about it! This is one of the problems that has aided in the distortion of what love, marriage and true friendship really is which in turn causes more divorce... and people that CANT HANDLE SWINGING.

KUTV News Story on Swingers - News - There is also the part about the needs of some to explore life to its fullest and in some cases it is held back by the desire to stay faithful to your partner. Swinging opens that avenue up and takes away the need to cheat on your spouse. In some cases it is amazing to watch your spouse be pleased by someone whether you are taking part or not. Watching my wife be pleased by another guy was an amazing experience and wouldn't give that up for nothing. Not sure that is news worthy!

KUTV News Story on Swingers - News - [quote=TorqueNTara]we were kinda getting busy last night when the story aired, and just now watched it on the web. Wanted to add something useful to this thread, but see that it has taken a downward, spiraling turn into some geeky abyss.[/quote] You're right. Let's discuss sports. Did you see that ludicrous display last night?

Swing Clubs in Las Vegas - - We are going to be in Vegas the middle of November for 5 days. Staying at the Hard Rock or Planet Hollywood, haven't decided yet. Are there swing clubs there that you would recommend? Also this is our first time in Vegas, what are the "must do's"? Not the boring stuff you would find on tripadvisor, but the fun stuff that swingers/nudists would do ;))) Thanks!!

Bubulaplease - Confidentiality - [quote=EVILDOERS]The NSA probably already knows you're swingers. And if they don't, Google almost for SURE does! lol And as far as increased domestic surveillance after the inauguration, I think you only really need to worry if you're, like, a Muslim...or a minority...or a liberal...or a woman. [em]Emo_10[/em] [/quote] NSA stopped listening to my calls once Obama became president. I guess they didn't hear anything worth taping. And considering that I'm a new Swinger, it's entirely possible that no one has the goods on me just yet. On the other hand, there's this: [url=https://youtu.be/SOWB4NTLl5g]Bow Down to President Trump[/url]

Mexico! Come with us!!! :) - Trying to put together a group of Swingers to go to Mexico with us! - I will have a better idea on prices once I know how many people are interested.It's looking like Spring is a little more expensive than when we went this October but with a big group the price will be lower. So round up all your friends that might be interested and once I know about how many people want to go I can call and find out what the group rate would be for that size of a group. I think they are also opening a resort in Montego Bay this winter so I can look at the rates there too since that might be cheaper. Let me know your thoughts and I'm hoping to see more responses as the weather gets colder and we all want to run away to the sun ;)

Swingers clubs are the new singles hangout? - - seems strange that singles would go to a swing club to find a lifetime mate :) But, at the same time, we have heard of alot of single straight men and women going to bi-bars, or gay bars. Maybe it's all just that Curiosity thing you know? They may be going to see what it is like at one. What do you think?

Why are single guys being band from all the upcoming parties? - Did some clown out there mess it up for all single males? - Our group, (Tampa Bay Lifestylers), has a handful of single males. They are a select few. These guys are known around the area as decent respectable guys. They know how to work a room without "COCK BLOCKING" or pissing in anyone's corn flakes because they pay attention to the room. Most are smart enough to sort of lay back and watch. They know that all the couples or single women that ARE looking for a SM to join in will ask (if they don't already know), if there are SM's there. Our group does not play on the premise that (I AM GETTING LAID NO MATTER WHAT), and the guys know this. So none of these guys feel the need to push anyone. They also realize there will be more parties and that everyone is comfortable with them at a party they will be invited back again and again.. There are WAY more BI women in the lifestyle and this usually means that married guys are more likely to stand there. This makes for even less room for single men as well. COUPLES, (Which is where SWINGING came from), are more frequently looking for additional WOMEN to join in, thus brings in the single woman. Yes, there are the peeps looking for a single man to join or just take the wife away for play alone, but it is far less frequent. Therefore most groups and clubs are allowing all single women and only a few single men.. I have also heard couples talking about removing SM all together from parties and clubs. My thoughts are simple but controversial. I think SWINGING is a COUPLES thing. All singles are just dating or becoming "SWINGERS" to just plain get laid.. To me, and don't get pissy, if I were a single man and could get away with joining the SWINGER WORLD, I would do it in a minute because most in the lifestyle are in it SOLELY for sex.. Like a drunk working in a bar. Just a note for you single guys. Sit back and watch. Don't be pushy or try to impress women with your job or your possessions. They DON'T give a SHIT about what you do or where you live or your HARLEY. If they are interested in you it is all about your body and your COCK!!! So try laying back and letting them come to you. I know this works VERY VERY WELL for my single male buddy..

Northern Utah Party ... Damn It! - We WILL hunt you down ... - I know this is a long rambling post. I hope you'll humor me. My intentions are good! :) I'm completely un-associated with the party heretofore mentioned. Wow--that sounded like lawyer-speak! OK, so there's a party coming up on Saturday in the Ogden area. I'm pretty much an expert on it 'cause I don't know the hosts, don't know the venue, and have never been there. [em]Emo_59[/em] But I've been to the Draper area version and can tell you that it's very classy. We're goin, but we may not be your cup-o-tea. But looking at the guest list, there are some VERY sexy folks planning on being in attendance. Ask yourself, why aren't YOU on that list? Now I've heard, here-'bouts, that it's kinda difficult to meet up with swinger-type people on here (or elsewhere). I'd not disagree. Having said that, wouldn't it be a good idea to support those folks who organize such parties? And show up, so that they continue? So that even more venues/parties are available in the future? So that more like-minded couples appear before your very eyes at similar parties? [b]Reasons NOT to go to the party:[/b] [i]You're shy[/i]. Screw you, so am I, now get yer ass to this party so that we can be shy together. [em]Emo_12[/em] Seriously, I'm so goofy on here that people expect me to be some kind-a comic in-person. I ain't. I'm shy. The written word is more my forte'. I've got to push myself (and quiet hubby) in order to attend these things. We always have fun and always meet at least a few new people. And everyone attending this party has agreed not to be "clique-ish" and to push their comfort zone by introducing themselves to at least three other couples/groups that they don't know, and to invite those couples into their inner circle. OK, they really haven't promised that. But they will after they read this. Or I'll bring that riding crop that I bought for the "50 Shades" party and beat them senseless with it. [i]You're new to swinging[/i]. I can't think of a better way to ease into it. These are not all out everyone rip their clothes off orgy kinda things. Why not? 'Cause the prudes won't let me have my way, DAMN IT! Errr...skip that last sentence. Anyhoo, there's typically some darkened rooms where, sure enough, folks are "smooching". Smooching may be a slight understatement. But the voyeurs peek in, the exhibitionists go for it, and us in-between types do a bit of both. No pressure, the comfort level and level of participation is up to you. A GREAT introduction to the swing scene. [i]Too Expensive.[/i] Crawl outa yer freakin' cave, would ya? [em]Emo_79[/em] Here's seven letters for ya that explain it: "Open Bar." Of course there's ususally some light snacks as well. And like I said, if you go to the right room, NAKED PEOPLE. Yeah, I know, makes that last porno DVD you bought seem overpriced, doesn't it? And hell, for me personally, hubby doesn't drink, and if I hit more than three drinks I typically wake up flat on my back, naked, legs spread, wondering why the hell I'm feeling so sore "down there." [em]Emo_85[/em] So yeah, I keep it to 3 drinks or less, but still feel that we get our $25 bucks worth as a couple. [i]You're an overbearing, pushy, arrogant, obnoxious, azzhole.[/i] Yer right. You really should stay home and enjoy some "alone time". [b]Reasons to Cum to the Party[/b]: [i]Lets be honest here[/i]: Who DOESN'T like to Cum, right? [i]Swingers are NOT just gonna fall right into your lap[/i]. Unless you come to this party. Or I hit the four drinks previously mentioned. Then gently ease my legs back together, would ya? [i]Even if you might be shy, you can meat, errr..."Meet", potential folks[/i] that you might want to communicate or hang out with later. Even vicariously as you see the interactions among other folks, you may just find some folks you're interested in. [i]There are lots of nooks and crannys[/i]. It's my understanding that there are various nooks, crannies, bedrooms, sitting areas, etc where people may gather. It can actually be a more intimate type thing than you might expect, so if you ARE shy, it's not like you've got to "perform" before a huge audience. OK, sorry, end of rant. I just feel it's a bit like politics. If you don't fully participate, quit yer bitchin! I'm not even going to attempt to articulate the names of the various party hosts that provide for such gatherings and venues. We have a great appreciation for their time and efforts and for sticking their necks out to do it ... you are ALL awesome. :) Oh, and if you do cum? Say Hi, OK? If you find a wild-haired redhead humping on your leg like a 2 year old un-neutered Irish Setter? That'll be me. [em]Emo_54[/em]

Those damn single men! - Where do they fit in this lifestyle? - I always seem to bring up the dead topics because I don't forum check every day, just when I can't sleep... I get asked a lot where single men fit in swinging, since we openly invite them into our play time and I loved TequilaRose's response. Thank you for putting the perfect words down for me. And I quote so all can read them again, as I find them truly important to understand: "...singles can be swingers. swinging is not a "couple" only thing. Swinger or Libertine means that you are not bound by moral restraint when you engage in sex. In other words, you don't need to honor the "holy matrimonial sanctity" of a married couple, whether you are in the married couple or wishing to engage in sex with them. So I still contend that a swinger can not be pigeon holed as a swapping couple only. " Swapping is partner exchange, swinging is open minded people be they male, female, straight, gay, or bi, married or single. The original poster wanted to know good advice for the single male to be picked out of the see of choices, and here are my criteria, which btw are things I say long before I arrange to sleep with them. 1. Never approach me (in person or email) and just say "wanna fuck" It's never funny, and always gets you a no thanks. If you like my profile, say something, don't just "someone likes you" It makes you look like a picture hunter and I'll delete it without even looking at you. 2. Listen to and adhear to my personal 'rules' which are: you are not my new best friend. I don't want daily text messages or phone calls. If I was looking for phone sex, I'd call my hubby at work. I prefer the 'you free thursday at 11am?' messages. If we pick a time, stick to it. You only get one chance. You stand me up, you're history. Hubby will always know where I am and with who and will hear all the kinky details. Nothing is secret or behind his back. Hotels are on your dime, not mine. If you don't have a suitable bachelor pad for our afternoon delights, I'm gonna think you're married and lied to me Afternoons I might be able to fit you in, nights and weekends I spend with hubby. When looking to play alone with a single guy, I will never pick time with you over time I could be with him. Don't even ask. 3. NO CHEATERS, ever. If I find out you're married and lied to me, I warn you up front, I will be the girl that calls her up and tells her. Might even have pics to prove it.... watch out, I bite. 4. Stick to the girls/couples rules, it's respectful, and everyones are going to be different. The above mentioned almost sound mean, but it's just upfront. The men I've met are more than happy to adhere to my rules of conduct. I have had only good experiences from the single men I've met on this site. Not all ended up regulars, but no experience was 'negative'. The only really bad swing experience we had was when we first started swinging over 8 years ago, and it was with the male half of a couple. Didn't scare us away from other couples, we just learned from it and moved on. The bashing is stupid and as soon as someone opens their mouth and lashes out at someone else opinions they drop massive IQ points in my book. Too sad..... Do what makes you happy and ignore the rest. Enjoy "that you are not bound by moral restraint when you engage in sex" :) Mrs Curious