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What really defines a TRUE swinger? - - My definition of "Swingers" is a couple in which both partners have agreed to allow the other to have an intimate relationship with another person. There are lots of situations that fit that description and lots of emotional states that occur as a result of swinging but that description works for me. So as a single male I don't think of myself as swinger but as someone who enjoys hanging out with swingers!
An out of this world (or state) encounter - swinging parties - The problem we have noticed in Utah is that there
seems to be far more wanna be swingers than actual
swingers. There are quite a few who think if the
girls kiss or show their titties then they have had
a great swinging evening. To us it is a lifestyle not
a fad & the cool in thing to pretend to do. We almost
always avoid house parties & private parties for this
reason. In fact we almost prefer finding new couples
& singles in a regular club & converting them over
to swinging over meeting playmates here because
it's easier & usually less drama. Not to mention it helps
weed out the wanna be's & the ones who used a 20 year
old photo that was taken when they still had teeth or before
they put on that extra 125 lbs.
Lifestyle RV Parks & Campgrounds - Does anyone know of RV parks and campgrounds for those in the lifestyle? - Lots of nudist resorts... but none that I know of that cater to swingers....
Swingers gone bad?? - - Just happy it
Swingers cars??? - What ya driving?? - This is what it looked like when we bought it this weekend. Will show the pics of the after restore. I love my cute hot wheel car just make me grin from ear to ear. So much fun!!! HOTFIRE
Keeping safe - Single females staying safe - [quote=CHEFFETTE][quote=EVILDOERS]Hell, we've had guys write us and ask to meet them and their wives (without disclosing that we're swingers) and suggest that we get the wife really drunk and then have sex with them.[/quote]That is just plain awful. What a nightmarish scenario for everyone involved but the guy getting his rocks off watching his wife raped.[/quote]
Didn't you hear? According to a legislator from Pleasant Grove it might not be rape if she's unconscious. [em]Emo_62[/em]
[url=http://www.sltrib.com/news/2136918-155/utah-lawmaker-questions-whether-sex-with]Stupid Utah Lawmaker[/url]
Small Admission Fee - Come join us but pay a small fee - God I love a bashing party and with nothing to do can't resist jumping in. Even though I love to be a smart ass sorry Dave I can't bash you, you did nothing wrong by defending yourself against this garbage post and have harmed me in no way so maybe another time. As for the rest of you that have spoken wisdom and given me the right to express mine I thank you.
Now Mav I would like to know how your created such a following with your words of wisdom or maybe it's the smell of horse shit that attracts them.
You have made a total of 6 comments.
First Comment
I'm all about helping cover hotel costs but "bring a bottle and a small admission fee of $50" seems rather excessive. Shouldn't the costs of the room be divvied up evenly? This seems like prostitution to me.
OK I was the dumb one here thinking it was a legitimate question and answered it not knowing you were about to name and judge someone you had no right to.
Now your second comment I love and my favorite reason to bash anyone that chooses to make newbies feel stupid then feed them garbage that makes no sense.. I wonder how many good people left the site thanks to you. I understand newbies can say some really dumb shit at times but unlike you I try and give a real answer
GILDETHRILL wrote
I would say $50 is fine for single guys! To help pay for the room cuz all your really going to be doing is fucking the woman that come and 90% of the time men out number the woman! But if there was a party that the woman out numbered the men, then the woman should pay to cover costs!
Spoken like a total nube. Member since August 2014.
Mav you said.
No, it is not all right to discriminate. If you like that scene, go for it. Or you could have some class and hold out for the couple/single/group that truly appreciates you.
WTF are you saying he is discriminating against women, men, money? Did you tell him anything that made sense at all?
Now my answer to you GILDETHRILL would be why don't you do one for yourself and tell all the women for fifty bucks,,,, no wait for free they can have you. Well I think you can guess within one how many will show up. See women don't think like us men and have the urge to stick anything that will spread their legs. It also is why an event charges double for men and free for women, it evens things up a little, if it was the other way around a lot of single guys would be standing around with dick in hand wondering where the women were.
Now number three and your legal advice all I have to say is next time I need legal advice I would ask the horse your sitting on before you.
WOW! Never saw the lawsuit angle coming. I'm not surprised often but DAMN! Totally got me.
Just remember everyone, the single most effective defense against libel is THE TRUTH! You can't be sued for saying what someone ACTUALLY did. So, feel free to post away what was said between people.
And notice I am talking in generalities. Not giving legal advice, just common knowledge.
Your fourth comment came after SheLove wrote
Utah people are such tight asses with there money. Where can you get layed for under $50. Really. Grow some balls.
You said
SheLove, it isn't about the money. It is about sex for money. That is called prostitution. Do you not see that? The lifestyle is not about paying for sex. It is about consenting adults having fun for the sake of having fun. No money involved.
Now I'm a little confused because I consider sex a type of entertainment. So I'm trying to think of something fun that wouldn't cost me a dime. Lets see solitaire na need to buy cards, wait after some thought my sock puppet will always join me for free, O shit I forgot to wash it last time and that costs money.
So Mav I have to ask what exactly is sex to you anyway, your profile says nothing of what your willing to GIVE a lady to make it worth her time. And so you understand I'm not talking about money. Do you have a big dick, know how to use your tongue or fingers. Or do you just roll over on your back and tell her to please you because it's a womans job and not worth a cent anyway.
Next you said
Now he is advertising the orgy on craigslist!!
Come on now it that the best news from craigs you have to tell us. What about this one did you post it?
Its late, any ladies interested in some black cock tonight?8/7 - m4w 25 (University of Utah )
Then comes this piece of work
OK, I've had a change of mind based on the opinions presented here. CrazyDave is a businessman like other posts and hosts. I cannot hold that against him. His tactics, well, that is questionable. But others are doing it as well. So, go forth and party CrazyDave. $50 isn't that bad off considering the costs of other parties.
A Little Magic: if you DEMAND that I pay for everything to EXPECT sex, then yes, that is prostitution. If you ask me to pay for everything in 2014, then we would never go out. There isn't anything less sexy than a woman wanting the guy to pay for everything. Hike up that skirt and join 2014.
You insult Dave, anyone that posts, hosts of parties others. Then called a very sweet lady that has foot the bill for a guy more times than you know a PROSTITUTE.
What I don't get is how without a single nice good word about anyone you managed to put together a wonderful fallowing of perfect swingers, maybe you should think about a group of your own called bashing swingers enter at your own risk.
If only I wasn't tired I could comment about their worthless bashing and speculation.
[em]Emo_60[/em]
Why so much hate in the swingers world... - - yea i call you that ,
to me anyone can be a N ....
so i guess i should get bent out of shape when im call the C,,,ker word
or any other name beside ALTON
Alton
Girls that are into DP - How common is this activity among the swingers? - [quote=EDANY0178][quote=UTCPL][quote=UTBIPLAYMATE]We would love to try both DP and DVP. It's one of my favorite fantasies!! ;)[/quote]
We've done dvp a few times & love it. Never
dp though. [/quote] Would love to help you out with that[/quote]
We would love to have someone to show us the ropes!! ;)
Favorite bars in utah - - Yes, I read the article. Our experience (getting close to 30 years in the swinging trenches) has shown that the authorities almost invariably use other (easier to prosecute) issues to shut down naughty things like swinging parties. Recently in Texas they're trying to use zoning ordinances and disturbing the peace and, believe it or not, parking ordinances. Quite often it's alcohol related. Not too many years ago with a local, fairly prominent swinger who held frequent parties in his upscale neighborhood they nailed him for providing alcohol to minors (apparently one girl at one of his parties was not yet 21).
And I would ague that Las Vegas is anything but tolerant for swingers parties or really anything related to sex. They love to sell the idea of sex but when the rubber meets the road they are as intolerant as anywhere we've been. I don't remember the last hotel takeover we attended in Vegas where a topless pool wasn't promised and then shut down by the local authorities. Of course the big money hotels have absolutely no problem providing topless pools...if they can charge a hefty premium to do so. Vegas is all sizzle and no steak (in the vernacular of my grandfather).
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