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Female sex fantasies. - What do women really think about sex? - Women rarely fantasize about the carnal and brutal side of sex men obsess about 24/7. Women dream about protection, stability, health, family life, abundance of resources, being respected and being married to a nice guy, good provider and overall, happiness. Admittedly I have not read the texts that you and evil speak of. I am not sure what percentage of women rarely fantasize or what percentage dream of the other group starting with protection. Nor am I interested in a PDF of the article or text. Personally it doesn’t matter to me one way or the other what the percentages are or the motives behind them. I will grant you that a lot of what we hear here is male generated fantasies. I do think there are many women that do have fantasies as I do. None of us trying to play the imitation game or cool movie star like swingers as you report. It seems a lot of your responses are your opinion to the text, I am doubting whomever said imagination is good, that’s how we got to the moon, or the correlation to Native American casinos. My imagination makes my mind wander wether it be sex based fantasies or spiritual fantasies. My imagination also is a component of my career that assists me greatly. Just my bent.

Staypineapple?!?! - - [quote=JV]I’ve stayed there, it’s nice.[/quote] Is it for swingers or just a normal hotel?

Sturgis 2014 - The wife and I are wanting to know where the swingers play @ Sturgis - Last year, I know that there were several lifestyle groups at Glencoe. There was a group from another state that I ran into but I don

The Demise of the Political Forum (PF) - By Jock U. Larity - No free we're tired of all the bullshit fearmongering propaganda from the same wingnut gun-toting (most can't shoot a gun to save their life) morons on the right. The same morons that torture, murder and kill, to including their own sons and daughters to get a fuckin redneck cowboy and his corporate pigs more oil, more power all while trying to jam their fucking bible down everyone's throat and rape the part of the constitution, especially that which disallows this shit and twisting the part that allows them to arm themselves to the teeth should anyone have anything to say about it. No lies there buddy. Do me a favor and keep following your fuckin redneck retard shepherds off the fuckin cliff, sing jesus loves all the children, cept the colored, all you want and I will continue pointing and laughing. As for this forum. This secluded section just proves that like our country enough "Conservative Swingers" (oxymoron) cried about individuality, free progressive thinking and freedoms of expression and speech that we had to be locked away hidden. You conservatives like to ignore anything that challenges your position. You said so yourself in another thread. The truth is, we're all drum banging here and no one wants to hear anyone else's opinion. What's the point?

Cumming - In pussy or mouth - [quote=DELICIOUSLYWET][quote=Utahldscouple]Do you have to choose?[/quote] Not sure what you are asking exactly? If the universe really is totally cause and effect, 100% deterministic, and it only feels like we are choosing, then we don't have to choose, because we really can't choose. If it's not, and we are free to choose, then every decision is a choice. If you mean do we have to choose between playing bareback in an exclusive pre-tested group and or playing with or without protection, outside of the group, well, that's relative to whatever honest agreement the people within the group have chosen and abide by. We have spent more time as swingers outside of any such group. Whether we do or don't agree to play with someone, and then what we all agree to do and or not to do together, with any playmates we meet, always involves some discussion about safety practices and other factors. So out in the general swinger's population there are a lot more maybes which come down to choosing. [/quote] Was saying why choose if in the pussy or in the mouth. If you have a group, can't you get both :D? All lighthearted!

On a serious note... - A court case that could effect lifestylers with children - GEE PEOPLE, IT DOES NOT MATTER WHAT COUNTRY WE LIVE IN, THIS SHIT IS ALWAYS GOING TO BE AN ISSUE, FOR COUPLES WHO HAVE GONE THROUGH A DIVORCE WITH CHILDREN... BELIEVE ME WE KNOW. I MYSELF, AMANDA, GOT TAPED ON THE CHAT SESSION ONE NIGHT BY A PERSON,WHOM I DONT EVEN KNOW, WHO HAPPEND TO BE A FRIEND, OF MY HUSBANDS X-WIFES FRIEND,AND SHE MAILED THE TAPE TO MY HUSBANDS X-WIFE...(OUCH) I CANT EVEN TRUST SWINGERS ANYMORE EAITHER?? I DONT EVEN KNOW WHO THIS WOMAN IS, ALL I KNOW IS THAT SHE IS ON THE SITE... I DONT THINK SHE SHOULD BE IF SHE IS GOING TO TRY TO SCREW WITH PEOPLES LIFES.MY HUSBAND COULD HAVE LOST HIS TWO OLDEST CHILDREN, AND WE COULD HAVE LOST OUR YOUNGER CHILDREN WE HAVE TOGETHER, THE POINT IS WE STILL HAVE OUR CHILDREN!! AS LONG AS YOU CAN PROVE THAT THIS LIFESTYLE HAS NOUTHING TO DO WITH CHILDREN, AND THAT YOUR CHILDREN ARE NOT BEING HARMRD IN ANYWAY, THEN YOU WONT HAVE NOUTHING TO WORRY ABOUT, EXP. IF YOUR DISCREET! I GUESS THIS GOS TO SHOW YOU REALLY CANT TRUST A HOLE LOT OF PEOPLE OUT THERE? SO GOOD LUCK WITH YOUR BATTLE, WE FEEL FOR YOU! AMAANDA N HADEN :)

Slowing Things Down - An argument for taking your time. - That's a lot.... did ya'll cramp up typing this? Whew ! On the topic, we are always friends first... it makes the actual play much better ( in our own humble opinion ) [quote=DELICIOUSLYWET]A nice, slow, buildup might be ideal. In the vanilla world, the buildup often begins long before the first date. You meet a co-worker, or a fellow student, or someone who you see at the coffee shop, and there is some immediate attraction, and eventually you connect on a more physical level. If we are hoping to make those sort of connections, within the swinging lifestyle community, then we are going to have to find a way to run into lifestyle people frequently, and casually. If there is no, or limited opportunities to just run into swingers, enough to build relationships like that, then the way we end up meeting is through dating. If you are swiping right and you are vanilla dating, online, if there is shared chemistry and attraction, you will have a second date and so on and so forth. If the chemistry is super hot, even in the vanilla world, people sometimes fuck on the first date. If the sexual intimacy was superb, that might just accelerate the depth of the shared communications, the amount, and the quality of the time together. The way we see it, if there is some super hot chemistry, on a swinging date, if sexual intimacy happens, the same sort of acceleration in the relationship might happen. It might not. If it doesn't and the sex was good, well, good sex beats mowing the lawn. For us, we raised five kids, who all grew up to be happy, healthy successful adults. All but one of our kids have significant others. Some have kids, which makes us grandparents. Our kids and our grandkids, really like us, love us, and we really like and love them, so we spend a lot of time together. We have friends from work and friends from the neighborhood, and we have jobs. Seriously, dating, at the level we dated, when we were wooing each other, in terms of time, well we just don't have it. If non-monogamy was the openly celebrated norm, and friends openly fucked each other, as a normal part of a friendship, then we would all just naturally end up in those sorts of relationships. Well, except the assholes. Assholes don't flow into meaningful relationships. They take advantage of people's vulnerabilities and loneliness. Manipulation isn't friendship. Demanding people, who wish to break you into the vision of their expectations don't want to be your friend. No give, just take. You'll never be able to give them enough. You owe them nothing, and yet, they will shame you for not giving them exactly what they want when they want it. If we can all just avoid the assholes, then what we do get to share with good caring people, is a privilege and for lack of a better term, a blessing. Good people, reaching out, accept and defend each other's vulnerabilities, even if that means some disappointment and patience, and that takes an honest caring person. Sexual desire honestly expressed is surrounded with vulnerability, and romance even more. I changed subjects there for a moment. Since what swingers do is considered taboo, as a social norm, then that leaves dating. Let's face it. Dating is hit and miss, when it comes to making a lasting connection. When four people are involved dating becomes maybe a bit more complicated. We are not apposed to the slow burn buildup. If we meet someone and there is a spark, that is the motivation. If there really is a nice shared spark, and they want to jump ahead and build the fire, we probably won't say no. [/quote]

UNIVERSAL "SWINGER" SIGN - UNIVERSAL "SWINGER" SIGN - Is there a Universal sign for Swingers? And if there is not, there should be! How many times have you been in a bar or out with your partner and spotted a nice looking couple and wondered???Are they??? What can you say without embarrassing yourself or them by saying, "hey are you in the lifestyle?" We did some looking and found this website http://www.swingrings.com/index.html take a look and tell your friends it would be great if it worked....AND WE ARE NO WAY ASSOCIATED WITH THIS PRODUCT just like the idea so we all can quit guessing. If you know of anything tell the world.

Staypineapple?!?! - - [quote=Utahldscouple]We are as well. It has pineapple decor everywhere. Wondering if they are marketing to swingers without directly marketing. We have kids with us otherwise we would try 😂![/quote] Your still a bad influence. 😂😈

Question - do you talk about other swingers? - ok but i would like to know if a cpl has had a mad time . why should other cpls have to go thur the bs ..why not say hay look they are ok but they need to work on there peopel skills .. i dont know maybe iam wrong ,,we are new to the life style ,,i would like to know if the guy or guys hehe my wife is with are up to par..as i would hope you are also . we have met some cpls that just clicked from the start .then others that say 1 thing then when you met .you say who are you guys ..let all be grown ups dont lie on your profile then this would not happen ..we have met some fakes ..so we say if you know some 1 is a fake let your friends know ..