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Hello summer - Swingers couple party - [quote=MoreFun4U]If you don't know and understand the reason for these types of rules there is a good chance you're part of why they exist.[/quote] [quote=JB_SLC]Dick is abundant and low value. If we want an extra, it’s super easy to find. Having a bunch of single males at a party doesn’t really add to the party and can make the dynamics weird. It’s not personal (usually), it’s just the way it is! And frankly, single men attending parties (or demanding to attend) are usually a red flag unless a woman or couple can personally vouch for them.[/quote] I believe this about covers it. 👍

KSL swing story - - For those of you guys out of town. This is the transcript from the KSL website. "Everyone has shared their partners with everyone else in the room." "You're in happy valley and you think nothing like that could happen." An Eyewitness News Investigation takes us inside a delicate subject few people like to talk about -- infidelity, couples cheating, in secret, in the open, and joining a movement that appears to be gaining momentum. We heard persistent rumors that spouse-swapping and adultery is commonplace in certain suburban neighborhoods. We discovered those rumors were based on at least some truth. People told us they were being recruited -- marriage counselors say they are seeing more if it. There aren't statistics or easy answers, but it's clear the effects can be devastating. Love, commitment, holy matrimony. In Utah, where marriage vows and family values run deep. Woman: "They said it was more exciting when their spouse was involved." This story will open eyes to something many would like to keep secret. "It was taboo within their religious background." "I thought, this can't be happening here. This is Utah." Sometimes it's kept very quiet, among neighbors and friends. Other times, it's out in the open. Studies show infidelity is to blame for more than half of divorces in Utah. What we found surprised even experts. We knocked on doors, attended a party. We heard stories by phone, by email, but nothing could match what we heard in a pocket of Draper. "Something was wrong with every other neighbor in that neighborhood." Her husband's indiscretions shattered their marriage. "Intensely, intensely painful. It's the hardest thing I've ever been through in my life." The divorce final, he remarried one of their neighbors within a week. It seems adultery ran rampant. Up the block it was consensual with other married neighbors cheating together. People told us they moved to get away from it and stayed inside to avoid it. Across town one woman told us she just wanted to run from it: "Everyone in the room had shared their partners with everyone else in the room. These people had been married five, 10, 20 years." She and her husband were invited to a barbeque with couples from Draper, Provo, Sandy and Salt Lake. A doctor made a move. "He's hitting on me, like he's single, and his wife's sitting right there. I think, there's another motive to this party and it's not just to hang out and meet new people." They got out of there. While there's no data, experts say it's proof of a trend. Vicky Burgess/Ph.D. Clinical Psychologist: "I think, because sexual relations and sex itself is more open, I think we're seeing more of it." We found there are several parties where couples can meet. Randy Chatelain, Ph.D./ Marriage and Family Therapist: "I believe this kind of behavior is going to catch up with a couple, because where does it stop? What more do you have to involve to create the high?" Hundreds of couples pack a popular Sandy nightclub. "A lot of people nowadays have fantasies and they want to fulfill them with their significant other. This is the best way to do that." This man, who asked not to be identified, built a business, helping couples meet at parties. His website suggests spouses can be in love and still enjoy sex with others. "They figure, 'I would much rather do it with the person I love than have them do it behind my back.'" From the looks of it, he's pretty successful. He has 4,000 members living in Utah. How fast is it growing? Four years ago there were 150 members. How common is it? Posing as a married woman, we signed up on a website aimed at so-called "swingers." In six days, 70 married men, most from Utah, ask to start a fling.

Friend collectors or swingers - - [quote=Utahldscouple]We are more hobbyists or friend collectors than DTF type. Count us as guilty.[/quote] Us too! We love friends! The more the merrier . . . IF we play . . . That is a bonus. As to collecting friends in our friends list . . . Not so much. Though we have certainly accepted friend requests from people we have yet to meet, we ONLY accept friend requests from people we would LIKE to meet . . . And . . . We frequently clean out our friends list when it becomes clear we will never meet. If the practice of looking for people in the LS to meet and be friends with is a bad thing . . . Color us guilty! We have no plans on changing that.

This one time at Swingers Camp - Discussion about N by N camp out - We had a Blast. Enjoyed meeting new people and seeing old friend.

Black Ring, Right Hand - How to tell if someone's a swinger - OMG! Just had a client walk in and notice my black tungsten wedding ring (I've had one for a couple of years now.) He told me that it I were to wear it on my right hand it would indicate I was gay. I told him I had heard that it indicated other things (didn't elaborate) and he assured me, and I guess he would know since he and his partner have been together over 20 years and finally were allowed to get married last winter, that it meant gay at...least among his friends and acquaintances. Maybe we swingers are too little too late to the party. Besides, Ms. Evil said she'd never wear anything that dark and colorless. Oh, and fwiw, when we first started swinging (back about the time Madame Curie was JUST starting to glow in the dark a little) the big thing was a necklace, or ring, or t-shirt, or even a tattoo of an apple with a bite out of it. Saw a few people wearing them at conventions/takeovers but never once have we ever seen anyone wear them in a vanilla public venue.

Oprah show on Swingers - - Just saw a promo for Oprah's show on Swingers that will be aired on Thursday (June 29, 2006)for those that want to see what is going on in your neighborhood as it said, LOL

Where are the Midwest Swingers? - - Seriously. I'm a recent college grad, and my guy is still in school, so we can't go traipsing off around the country to meet people. Where are the swingers from Ohio, Indiana, western PA, south Michigan, etc? No offense to the people on our friends list, but I'm tired of getting all excited to see that we have a new message only to find it's a friend request from someone in freaking Utah. I mean, seriously. Literally everyone I know who graduated from college in 2009 is working a dead end job somewhere. None of us has a career, so even if we were willing to spend the money to travel cross-country for casual sex, we don't have it to spend. I've visited some other swinging sites, and on many of them, there were lots of ....well, profiles, at least, from Ohio. We've met several couples from one of the sites, even though we haven't swung with them. WTF?

Swingers Party - Doesnt mean who ever is there is open to everyone elsa - Shawn: We feel you handled the situation in " high road" fashion, and certainly gain our respect for having done so. To be there to back your wife up if "no" wasn't accepted, is not only proper, but is in fact the only way swinging can matain any civilized credability. We also agree that violence is the absolute last option to chose. Going to the host of the party as was stated already is a very good idea. We have been to several really large parties that were totally open to singles, and only one time was there ever a problem. The hosts were informed, and the violater was asked to leave by a group of the men ( host included), and that was the end of it. It would be unfortunate if this one incident were to make you swear off all clubs or parties as they can be alot of fun in a totally different way than meeting a couple or a small dinner party can be ( although we certainly could understand you being skeptical about it). T and V P.S. we hereby promise no tounge for at least 10 min. after meeting...lol

Why so much hate in the swingers world... - - "Ya know.. you are so "FUCKING STUPID" and in my opinion a fucking coward, asshole, moron, scumbag,racist sexist pig fucking ,deserting, lowlife worthless piece of shit.." Uh, you don't even know me. LOL! "Wow so that's what it feels like to be on your mentality level? And I use the word kindley. And once again asshole, you proved my point! You are so uneducated and have no self worth that you must attack personally." Kindley??? Oh you mean Kindly! "Seems I read someplace.. now I am not saying this is true, that such anger could be THE SIGNS OF A CHILD ABUSER AND WIFE BEATER..or a victim of abuse..,can't remember where I read that. Remember you told me in previous post.. old.. fat..no memory. " Wow, thanks for that Doctor Phil. ""YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE A CLUE WHEN YOU ARE BEING BAITED. YOU ARE NO FUN ANYMORE. I don't like you any more. " I knew you were addressing me dummy. LOL! It's you that was baited, you that got personal with me. HAHAHAHA! Oh, and I never liked you. ;-) -D- P.S.

Looking to establish a group of safe swingers - - It's hard to find a group of couples like this but love the idea!