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what the f#%@ was he thinking? - swingers still deserve respect - That e-mail was totally out of line and I would like to say on my behalf as a single male, I would never conduct myself in such a manner. If I were expecting to be a guest, then that is what I would be. The agressors are truly insecure. Sometimes too I wonder if some 14 year old didn't get access to an account or something like that. None the less I continue to witness such a sensitivity to single males almost to the degree that saying hello is out of line. I guess that looks like another agressor. I do not want to come across as a whiner but it really makes it difficult for those of us who are hoping to make a connection somewhere. One more thing to the originator, HOTTYZX2; you are a great looking couple and there is no reason you shouldn't have the kind of fun you are looking for. Hang in there, take care of yourselves and counsel one another about how to deal with such nonsense as the e-mail you received. Sincerely, Rick

Are you a Swinger or Liver? - - it's funny to me there's an option to turn of single dudes but not woment lol. just funny cuz it's exactly what we're looking for but because dudes are insecure creeps, they've ruined tryna swing somehow. In my mind, the term swing has been blasted with negativity because you nearly can't even say the word lol. Yet most swingers i've met, shouldn't be swinging which makes question the entire thine realizing theres a lot of differences between swingers and me. I feel as if swingers still have rule & since I don't, what am I. I guess I'm a liver. A liver is a person who just likes living and if a moment as it presents itself in time where if she or he is attracted you trust her as a grown adult being safe. So in my mind, a swinger could never be with a liver. Basically, if you have rules, you're a swinger, if you don't, you're a liver—what are you? To me, swingers need to grow up because it's a fact from the livers i've met, we're always with the finest women.

Sex clubs in Salt Lake? - Or is Las Vegas the best bet? - [quote=Utahldscouple][quote=Canvas][quote=PARTYINLV]Nothing in SLC can come even close to Vegas in comparison. There are many places here. But we recommend two for you. If you can spare two nights in Vegas, check out Whispers one night and Playhouselv the other night.[/quote] Thanks! Was hoping you'd chime in. Two nights sound good. However, if we only have one night, would you recommend one over the other? Also, regarding Playhouselv, just so I'm clear....one has to become a "member" first ($10/couple), then it's $100 entry fee after that. Do I have that right? Thanks to the other posters too. Keep the comments/thoughts/experiences coming. Would love to hear more![/quote]That is correct.[/quote] It's difficult to advise which club to visit if you only had one night. Not everyone who wants to go to Playhouselv is admitted. They are selective and we have some friends who were denied access. We also have some friends who were approved and absolutely love going there. We are good friends with the couple that runs Whispers. We actually play them this week in our lifestyle Fantasy Football league. lol. They are a great couple and do a great job there. The main difference is that Whispers never allows single males, whereas Playhouselv has specific nights when single guys can come. You can't go wrong with either place. But, definitely stay away from the tourist trap, Green Door. It's filthy with guys following you around jacking off. No bar, no DJ, no dancing, etc. Red Rooster is iconic for it's dated vintage look. It's busy with a loyal following that caters to an older crowd. It's not for us, but it might be fun to check out because it is iconic. Just keep your expectations low. We do like going to Risque Estate during the daytime for the nude pool. It's worth paying the extra $20 for a daybed cabana to stay shaded. It's is a relaxing environment hanging out with other nudists. The evenings there are hit and miss. Whispers has a busier daytime nude pool on the weekends. The atmosphere is more of a party scene compared to the quiet of Risque. Of course, some resorts on the strip have topless pools. But, you have to find the swingers amongst the mostly vanilla crowd. Whatever you do, we hope you have a great time.

Canadian members - searching - We are also members of SDC and until recently they had a program called VidWebChat. This was an interesting link to other lifestyle groups they sponsered like Swingers Europe, Swingers Latino and others. They recently dicontinued that service stating that there were too many outcasts from other clubs logging on, or something to that effect. Hopefully some of our friends we met overseas will find their way to this site so we can renew our friendships. Regretfully, we didn't exchange e-mail addresses with some of our foreign friends:(

New Friends - - Hello Fellow swingers.... I put this on here the other day but it seems to have disappeared. We have a private KIK group and we have met some wonderful people. And we are looking for new friends to get to know. A little bit about our group we try and set up a meet and greet once a month. We also have some group members that throw house parties, and every once in a while we rent a house and have naughty house parties. We have done meet and greets of all types, from the bar to a day at the lake. We are looking for friends from the ROY area to the PAYSON area. This is a couples chat only. And we also ask that you both have your own KIK account. If you are not a couple and you share an account then dont ask. We have set up a gateway room that you can find on KIK and its called utahseductivecouples. We are looking forward to meeting new friends. UTAHSEDUCTIVECOUPLES

On Premise Swingers Club - SLC - I'm probably betraying my ignorance here. But what about West Wendover? (The Nevada side) Or maybe Mesquite? I think there should be some houses there that the owners or banks are desperate to sell. Heck, the cops in either place might welcome some extra tax revenue.

Facebook for Swing Friends? - - I have close swing friends on mine. But then gain I'm actually friends with my close swing friends, of that makes any sense. Most everyone we know knows about is being swingers anyway. Although I don't post anything on there like "hey I had sex with so-and-so today" on it.

Flabky69 - Any swingers in missouri semo - Looking for swingers in Missouri preferably semo area

If you give it a try, it don't mean you're bi !!!!!! - - All I can say is be true to yourself. Whether in or out of the lifestyle, that above anything else is what ensures your happiness and success. Now enough of the philosophical mumbo jumbo... My experience with this topic is pretty varied. Obviously I not only list myself as bisexual but I also am transgendered; so in the swing lifestyle my potential partners are severely limited. But with that said, I have also met a large number of sweet and understanding people out there. I have also met a fair amount of swingers on a more intimate level. Thanks to our religious "western society" however, listing yourself as bi, does pretty much brand you. There have been plenty of opinions on this subject in the forums since I've joined and I'm sure long before hand. The one re-occurring thought I see over and over is that when you are talking about sex, it's simply an act of pleasure in this type of setting. If it is good for the woman, it should be good for the man as well (or TGirl in my case). Long story short dear, just do what your head, heart and little (maybe big, I haven't seen it) head tell you to do. If it feels right, then it IS right. Don't let anyone tell you any differently. If you don't get laid as much, that's their problem for missing out on a great guy that is truely in touch with himself. Alecia

Looking to establish a group of safe swingers - - Please include me (Jim) & Linda.