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Adulter or Swinger? - - Well, I struggled in the begininng of our journey into this lifestyle with my values and whether this was right or not. I grew up in such a staunch religious family as most ppl in Utah do (GRIN). I didnt feel as though I was a "cheater" because my husband obviously knows and participates, I also didnt consider myself an "adulter" for the same reasons....we just consider ourselves to be "swingers" hehe straight up, bottom line, we are swingers. Is it right to do so when you are married or single for that matter?? I dont know, I think it is an individual decision and how you feel about it or about yourself. I know ppl outside of this circle of swingers would most likely turn their nose up to how we live or rather how we spend some of our spare time. Especially living here in Utah, and in a very tight nit, religious town where there is a church on every corner, and a bishop on every street it seems. However, this is how Mr. Stitch and I feel about it. We are not cheaters, or adulters (maybe by definition but not in our personal dictionary) we are occasional SWINGERS. Some call it a lifestyle....for some it may be. For us we dont consider it a lifestyle only because it isnt a way of life for us. We dont make it something that we live to do by planning our lives around the LIfestyle Conventions, or other parties, or vacation sites (not saying that any of you do make it your whole life, cuz I know most do not). We dont do it every weekend. This swinging stuff is something we do occassionally. We are more in this type of thing to meet open minded awesome couples that we can hang out with and things of a sexual nature are welcome, but it isnt something that we expect everytime we get together. This is why we dont consider it our lifestyle rather just a recreational hobby that we SOMETIMES do. We dont feel that it is a moral issue/problem because we do it together, we have a great time, it has made our relationship tighter. We have discovered a better appreciation for each other, and our love for one another has grown. We are more confident in our sexual desires (especially me, Mrs Stitch) and it has made us better lovers. We communicate more openly, and as odd as it may seem it just overall has made our relationship improve. Now that may bring up a whole other arguement upon some of you, but I know that we are not the only couple that has experienced this new found love,appreciation, and confidence in your relationships. Back to my point......we feel that unless or until all this recreational swinging that we do ...makes a negative impact on our love/relationship or until it causes problems between the two of us then we will rethink our decision to do such things. Some of the outside ppl may ask...."well, why would you put your relationship out there for there to be problems....doesnt this open up the door for problems" My answer to that is....."Absolutely!, it does open up that door for inviting feelings, problems, desires...etc, but only if you let the door open" You have to communicate every feeling, desire, problems...etc. we make this about EACH OTHER...he doesnt make it just about him, or I dont make it just about me. We always do things together it is decisions we make together with what we do, and how we do it and until it does cause problems that we cant handle then we are going to keep on swingen without remorse or guilt of whether or not we are adulters/cheaters.... How dare the neighbors down the street or the single female friend who sleeps with everyone judge us for having openness in our relationship....it is something we do together, and when we decide to quit we will quit together. Lets be honest, we are all humans with sexual needs/desires and married or not you still have them. At least we can share those desires and needs together and experience those things together....therefore never leading us to cheat, or be an adulter.....not that we ever would anyways, but we may have thought about it ,which in my mind is just as bad!!!!!

Profiles? - - We had the same problem, but I titled my thread "how to get started" We received some good advice on how to change our profile. Some do's and don't's. Swinging wasteland! LOL! That's a good one, I like that. I've been through Elko and with the Casino's there, one would think there would be a lot of action, but I guess maybe not. Maybe it's where people go "to swing" but not where swingers "are?" Just a thought. And I thought Boise was a wasteland! We all have our ideas of what a wasteland is..... Nice profile changes!

Another way to identify swingers - Totally hot T-Shirts - they look like nice party wear.. or swinger event wear.. I would buy a few The main problem is We would have to buy like 5 tops for her. and well a couple of items for me because we're always looking for something different.. Maybe we'll just get one of each of the buttons.. on a side note I do like my pendant I got at the bliss NYE party.. Those are awesome and discreet. The main problem is getting ALL Swingers to embrace a certain LOGO Its like AFF VS SWINGULAR VS SWAPPERNET VS SLS>. Etc.. All pretty much the same Yet different too LOL

Creating an Amazing Swingers Profile - How to market yourself better - [quote=BMSHELL][quote=UTAHSJCOUPLE]Shit! We aren't verified. We are totally screwed! ~The Mrs.[/quote] I hereby certify the Mrs is real. I further certify that good spelling gives her a lady boner! [/quote] It's all true! LOL!!!

Joe - Swingers parties - I'm looking for any swingers in. The Northwest area of Chicago that are interseted in meeting

Secret Swingers Club Ogden, UT - Clubs - [quote=2Gemini]Dress code for unspoken[/quote] Thank you

Swingers Club - Swingers Club - Sweet! Let us know when you'll be opening and how much the cover charge is. I'm pretty sure Clearfield will be stoked to have the first real swing club in Utah.[em]Emo_12[/em] And since you've never been to one I'm sure yours will be free from all the cliches that most tawdry swing clubs exhibit. About the only thing you need to remember is to have a little crock pot full of dicey looking meatballs on the buffet table. [em]Emo_8[/em]

Young swingers party - sold out, who still wants to party ? - [quote=EVILDOERS](cough*suckup*cough)[/quote] Indeed. We suck up, we suck down, otherwise you lose that "vacuum seal" and it's just not as pleasurable. Ha!

Game ON....which sign is Hornier...(is that a word?) - zodiac signs of swingers? - Add one more Cancer (Mr.) and one more Gemini (Mrs.) We are both horn dogs.

We have heard about it many times........... - Couples that are swingers - hmmm DRAMA....wish someone would list the definition of DRAMA. Some might say that this is drama....airing dirty laundry on a public forum....others may think quarraling in public...anyhow it sounds like there may have been some miss-communication between possibly the four of you. Unless i have miss-read the replys it appears that the other couple have not responded to this post. i certainly would hate to see the members of this site become "JUDGE & JURY" without knowing both sides....especially if they do not want to discuss it for one reason or another. Queen, hope your experiences are pleasurable...that is what we all want, and let it be known that we are certainly not tryin to "stir the pot" simply tryin to keep un open mind....I know that WE ALL claim to be drama free...but we will be the first to admit that we are not perfect in our dealing with each other or with others.....ALL THE TIME!! this can be sometimes a interesting lifestyle... HAPPY NYE!!! Mr. Diver