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On Premise Swingers Club - SLC - A club here would be nice, definitely would need to be "discreet" as the morality police here would be out to shut it down before and after it got going.

What is is with local couples? - Anyone else seem to have the problem with couples local to where you live NOT wanting to meet? - I think people who do not reply are simlarly afraid about pictures. THey are afraid that locals will recognize them. We are in a very small town where we have been asked upon returning from a social at 3 or 4 in the morning what was wrong.... Then it goes thru the 2 closest neighbors to the south living east and west of each other. Then it jumps west several houses and then North across the street and back east again. Within one day. 7 families now know that we got in at 4am and there is speculation as to why. The neighbor across the street, as I picked up my mail one afternoon, at the bottom of my driveway, starts telling me about a couple, that I do not know from the other side of town, about them fighting and how they poor mouth and then they were eating steak...... Do I care ... why should I, but in this town everyone knows everyone elses business.... But regardless of the size of the town people are afraid that someone will find out....<shishhhhhh> <don't let anyone here> that they are swingers and God will curse them.... You know what they say about small towns and Baptist.... They see everything, hear everything that happens and tell everyone about everything ...EXCEPT that they recognize no one in the liquor store.. or local whore house.

Swingers cars??? - What ya driving?? - Any one doing MOAB in two weeks??

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Mormons - - What a interesting topic, I have to put in my two cents. I am from Amesfoort, Holland. I moved to Utah when I was young and grew up in SLC in the winter, returning to Holland some summers. (A unique perspective) Now with my wife, I have not meet any LDS swingers. But our circle of friends is not LDS ether. But while I was single I meet many Mormon girls that a great interest in me. Some tried to convert me (HAHAHAHHAHAHAAHAHAHHAHAHAHAH.... no) and some had no intention of converting me, although may have used it as an excuse to talk to me. There are many benifiets for staying in the church, and growing up non-lds can be a lonely affair in Utah. I think that many pretend to believe, because they need the support of the community, friends, and family. But many do want they want behind closed door. And I am sure the Internet is a great escape for them as well. I have been far and wide in this world, and most people are all the same. Yeah they may not be that open but everyone has to get to their own freedom in their own way and own time. So many of them just chat, and disappear when it comes down to meeting. But in my single days I had girls from the church meet me in private, and well. :) I used to like to think that is was because I was a hottie. but I think I have come to realize it was them who was hot, and needed release, and trusted me to be quiet about it. I am sure many think about swinging. But I doubt many would even talk to their spouse about that. The one issue I have with the Church is that they tend to control through fear, and I bet many guys and girls would like to bring up the topic. But fear their spouse will freak and they will be in front of the bishop. Most be a scary place to be, I am very lucky to have been raised in a very liberal, open, agnostic home. That upbringing seems to leave so many insecurity's, and doubts about ones self. anyway sorry to be long winded.

Place to Hang out and Play - Have an Idea - It surely seams that the number of swingers in Utah is LARGE. I have heard some thing before like, (Utah has the most subscriptions to sexy magazines per capita) and that the numbers of swingers in Utah is in the top 5 on the list. So with all those people how is it Utah is still so controlling of what the people want? Here in Florida we have ON PREMISE clubs that are completely legal. Yes every now and then the news tries to gain a few points with the religious WRONG. For the most part if the club keeps it's nose clean everyone else stays out of it. We also have house parties and places called house parties that are 3 days a week every week. It's by invitation only and you BYO-drinks, a dish to pass and most donate to the cause. Keep in mind these are BY INVITATION ONLY... Meaning if you don't donate you may never be invited back. The owners DO live there and have regular bills sent to these homes. There are some that move around from hotel to hotel also. By invitation only... About a year ago a house party was busted out in the sticks. A few people were harassed by the local news jerks. Since then that TV station has lost a large number of people watching them due to their ON CAMERA BS... We are members of an ON PREMISE club in Port Richey, Fl. The police have been trying to find a reason to shut our doors a few times. 1st go around was people that lived in the vicinity. This brought on an investigation and the TV NEWS CREWS. They interviewed many of the homeowners and also the people in the stores below the club. Well the neighborhood wanted us out and the store owners wanted us to stay pointing out how clean and decent things have been since the BAR upstairs became a nice quiet swingers club. About 6 months or so ago the TV NEWS crews were at it again. This time the people in the neighborhood watch all around the club had said their crime rate had dropped like a rock. NO reports of anyone ever needing the police or an ambulance and no homeless people hanging around trying to sponge off people anymore either. Also no broken bottles in the parking lot. So now the locals are happy with us... Go figure...

Question - do you talk about other swingers? - We agree, never use names, or even screen names, it is a small community, this life we are in. When talking with old or new friends, no matter what, it's always best to leave names out of it, even if you are talking positive about someone. We have come across, people, who ask questions of other people, either they seen some validations, or they just know we know, we live by the golden rule of, create your own opinion, it's sometimes a tough question to get out of, especially if you know something negative, but, unless the people are going to put you in any kind of danger, we keep our mouths shut. People ask us to be descreet for a reason, and who are we to violate that trust.

Swinger Hangout - Clubs - My girlfriend is curious about the lifestyle and I would like to take her to a bar or club where swingers hangout so she can meet some. Now that Habits and Moose are closed, I don't know where to go. Does anyone know the current hangout?

LDS Swingers Survey - Will any former/active LDS swingers take my survey? - if you add questions, maybe asking if you're still LDS. or if inactive or simply not LDS anymore at all... what age you left the church might be a good question.

swingin - thought this site was a swingers site - Sincitybi..... Being fat and ugly, I can tell from experience is not a problem for some of us men. I seem to have no problem with the ladies...even the very sexy young. Yes my wife is a good looking woman but that hasn't really been a plus for me.... I try to treat a lady like a lady even if she's not what some would call a lady.. Women like the journey and I try to be their tour guide... Gentle, slow, sensual and erotic.... Ugly hasn't been a handycap nor the fat thing... and since the diabetes got out of hand..... I am fat... at least 60 lbs too fat... Fat and ugly can be offset by gentle, slow, erotic, stimulating and just being a good tour guide on a nice journey..... and my wife is certainly not a mongaloid. Even my girl friends are not the most beautiful people in the world but they are beautiful people..... although one of my girlfriends face looks like a very young Drew Barrymore... I just saw "FIRESTARTER" and realized the resemblence. Besides ugly is in the eye of the beholder, isn't it? Not trying to start a controvercy just saying that fat and ugly doesn't have to be a hinderance in swinging..... and might I add age also...... The weekend of the 14th, not one not two but 3 very good looking, young women, I had never met before, were all over me. We were at the same table at a social/party/dance of one of the clubs to which we belong. Based on their reaction to my aftershave... I think that it may have had something to do withtheir reactions to me. The aftershave is something new, not one of the mass marketed big name things. I've gotten comments just on the streets and in stores.... So maybe I'm a good guide and maybe I know how to dress and what fragrence's to wear... I've also been asked to give mustache rides.... So old and ugly and fat.... so what... I'm like the energizer bunny... I just keep cumming and cumming and cumming...... :p and I have no plans of going and going and going, at least, for a while yet. Have fun and enjoy... life is too short....