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Age differences - How do you handle it - I don't want to start a controversy, and then it cums, Why would age be an issue at all. Isn't the idea of swinging, first of all, about having fun with fantasy, and then there is the idea that swinging is not a mainstream activity; i.e., Not along the idea of "Normal" relationships or sex. Age is one of the norms in society and thus, I would think, one of those things that would go out the window if one is involved in swinging. I bring this point up simply to hear why age would be an issue... I'm sure that there are people who are old and wrinkled and have bad breath and their plates are falling out and even the queen sized outfits or the XS lingerie would not fit....I mean if the lady is leaving 2 trails behind her, in the sand and she is getting her nipples scraped by that sand AND her plates are dirty and falling out and she had halatosis... Maybe she would not meet criteria to play with... unless one is in the same home with her and she snuck into your room and gave you oral sex while you were asleep. Or maybe it's the guy with the shriveled member, and that's after viagra and Enzyte and 2 other products, and he has slipped into your room and given you oral, and of course you are a lady....But Age should not be a single defining factor as to weather to play or not.... On the other end of that when people are "too young" . Are they out of diapers, eat solid food, over the legal age in your neck of the woods, and know what sex is and they have not stopped any clocks or watches in their immediate vacinity... They should be fair GAME.... I use the word game because it also denotes play which is what swingers call sex with others, other than their spouse.... So, how is age an issue or how does it become an issue...????? Of course there is preference but why close down oportunities.....????? Seems kind of counter productive to lose oportunities. Just a nickle's worth of my thoughts on 2 hrs sleep in the last 48... Ray

Girls that are into DP - How common is this activity among the swingers? - [quote=HOTTIEHOGANS]I LOVE dp :) love love love. I would like to try dvp too. but we don't do single guys and finding girls that want to do it/allow their hubby's to do it is difficult. :([/quote] well maybe you need to loosen your standard a little bit? just sayin. I dont mean to be rude but the overall stigma on swingular of how single males are big pieces of shit gets old. I mean that is your choice just dont get on here complaining how rough it is for you to accoplish your goal. Thats like me complaining i am not getting laid because i will only do jennifer anniston, carmen elctra, or megan fox and none of them are returning my calls...lol know what i mean?

Snowboarding as an ice breaker - Skiers, boarders, and those with season passes - We ski Beaver Mountain.....don't really think there could be a more appropriate mountain to meet up with swingers at;).

How Old Is Old - - Since we know the OP very well, I can tell you they are a really fun couple that are VERY lively and never give the lifestyle a bad name. I would answer B&L's question with ( when you find yourself just sitting on the sidelines with no play left. As long as I have known both of you I would guess TOO OLD is in about another 25-30 years..... Maybe we will not be playing with the 26 year olds anymore, but I can tell you I will fill my cock with cement before I am done!!!!! PS. Don't forget to send your dues for the OLD SWINGERS HOME!! ;)

new to the scene - - Thanks for the response grouptherapist, guess first off what is agood way to get more involved in swinging. Do not know of any swingers in our area but sure there is

Why are there so many swingers from Utah? - - Yep either in Utah or Florida. Or Course they can't be in Illinois. :-(

How to identify yourself as a Swinger - - FWIW we're on several other swing sites and one of them has an app for your smartphone that will alert you if you are close to another swinger (assuming they also have the app and it's enabled) and allows you to text them. Yeah, that one's pretty much been a bust as well even though it's actually a pretty good idea. People forget to turn it on (they usually don't leave it running when they're at work or home or at church just in case someone they really don't want to know they're a swinger somehow has the app) when they're actually in a vanilla situation where they wouldn't mind being approached. I don't know if the idea failed because people want privacy or because there really aren't that many swingers out there (despite all of our fantasies and "swingdar"). LOL

What the fuck - I'm not normal, please help me. - Here I am, one of them sick swingers with no morals or values. I can fuck a mans wife and let him fuck mine and feel good about it. Then go home still excited and fuck the wife talking about our experience. We are a menace to society, should be locked the fuck up before our choices destroy the very foundation our country was built on. And did anyone else hate their parents? The ones that would not let you run wild and scream in a restaurant. Said you would never drive unless you had a job and could forward your share of insurance. The ones that neglected you so they could help take care of their ailing parents. What was the sense in that when they couldn't walk and were ready to die anyway. Told you to eat the shit that was put in front of you at the table, if it wasn't good enough don't eat it or find a better table with food on it to sit at. Who would believe that I would someday look at myself and see them. That horrible person that helps a neighbor if in need, makes sure the kids needs are met before mine, tell them the same old stupid stories about how we got fresh air and exercise instead of finger cramps from sending those incredible words with no feeling or emotion. So what the fuck happened when they became adults, why are they not like me? For them saving for the future or crisis that is bound to happen doesn't exist. Maybe they are smarter because when rent and utilities came due they can reach into my bottomless pockets and grab a hand full of cash. But on the way to pay the bills choose instead to get concert tickets and that new 600 dollar cell phone they can't survive without . No big deal they can turn around and reach right back in and grab another handful. No need to bother with a how are you, can I give you a hand with something or spend some time together. Guess I'm done being a cry baby, no one will read this or give a shit anyway, think I'm going to grab my lawn chair, go out and look at the stars fantasizing about fucking Wilma, seeing the smile on my wifes face as she rides Fred's cock during a cruise on the ocean, might even shoot a load. To bad reality will sneak up on me when I realize that deep picket I worked my ass off for has run dry and there will be no cruise. The kids won't come around anymore or even text because we refuse to give them what must be rightly theirs, shit we don't need it because we have a rocking chair and a remote, what else could we want or have the energy for. Hum, you know what, I'm proud to be that sick swinger and don't even give a shit if my kids know it. Give me a little time and will tell you again what society should do with my sick ass. But until I get caught and made to pay for my sins it's time to take my cock out and stroke it again wishing I could be with friends, fucking and sucking with until all are satisfied and happy. Someone help me please and direct me to that magic pill everyone seems to have to make this madness go away. JUST SAYIN, hum anyone know what the fuck that is?

Meeting new swingers? - Where to meet them? - We used to live in a postage stamp size town in central fl and it was amazing the number of swingers that actually lived in that town as well as the next one over. Like it was mentioned above the net is the best thing for this lifestyle its amazing the ppl in the lifestyle you would never have thought about. Our sons gf's parents are in the lifestyle and we didn't know it until they approached us over the net,when we got the pics of them I almost stroked out. We never did play with them but goes to show you can find playmates in some of the oddest ppl and places. Good Luck JimmyandBecky

victoria secret baby doll and panties - size m/l 38c top - Okay so I was curious and did a little digging on some of those sites. Yeah, some are pretty sick and disgusting. Others are just kinky and a little icky. But depending on how far you go with this (some include pics or even videos with the undergarments!) you can apparently make a LOT of money selling dirty panties on the internet. Personally I'm saving up for a new chaise lounge so I won't be investing in any soiled undies, but who am I to judge what kicks someone's kink...I'm one of those disgusting swingers. [em]Emo_8[/em]