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Here's something Ive been curious about - - [quote=EVILDOERS]I think over the years we've pretty much seen and heard it all in regards to this subject and who is and isn't a "real" swinger. It kind of all boils down to semantics, doesn't it? Is it really that important to label it and each other? If swinging is a more of a mindset then yes, singles (male and female) are swingers too. I think, perhaps, that what some of the couples might be trying to get at (inelegantly IMO) is that in many ways perhaps singles don't really have as much invested in the process as couples do. As a swinging couple (remember it used to be called "wife swapping") you are in effect opening your relationship to some very real risk. If you don't think that's the case you either are in denial or haven't been around the scene that long. Singles simply aren't running the same risk although it could be argued they do have some risks, especially single females who at very least have some safety issues going into sometimes unknown situations alone. I guess you could argue single males also have a few risks as well. Also, of course, there is the whole argument of singles "not bringing anything to the table". An oft quoted argument to denote they don't have a partner to "swap". True enough in some regards but not entirely true in that they bring themselves and variety to the table for those couples not looking for a couples swap or who want to fulfill other fantasies or who have difficulty finding a fourway connection or attraction. Ultimately I think it's unnecessary for couples who don't want to play with singles (most often it's just single guys, a double standard perhaps?) to diss singles by saying they aren't swingers. And it's also probably not necessary for a few singles to complain that they aren't given an equal place at the table when they indeed do not come prepared to risk the same that couples must risk. Bottom line. Swing how you want to swing and don't swing how you don't want to swing. There's actually room for everyone even if we aren't all necessarily sitting at the same table.[/quote]Absolutely agree. Well said Mr Evil! BTW...Do you know if those X-Ray glasses really worked?? I always wondered...still do. I have particulair attraction to "landing strips"....They could be real handy sorting out potential play partners!
Sexy swingers closer to our age - 20-30 year old sexy swingers - Who would interested in attending a meeting and greet of couple close to our age? We have a big group of friends already but would love to meet more of you on this tread!
Las Vegas - Swingers clubs ect. - Can people who have been to both flirts and playhouselv explain the differences, pros and cons, and such? Been to playhouselv and loved it. Debating flirts. Any help would be great!
International Swingers Day - How are you celebrating? - [quote=ASHY][/quote]
I guess it's the main night tonight. It doesn't seem to be a big thing in Utah.
Verified "Real" People - - [quote=DE2OFUS]Sorry folks, you are wrong. This is not a "who is cheating on their spouse" site. This is a swingers' website. A site designed to allow persons to have sex with other persons who are not their legal spouse. The question is, "verified REAL people". The gentleman in question, who INFORMED the young lady who started this post that he was married and cheating, was apparently VERY real. It is not up to you to call this man out as someone to stay away from. It is ENTIRELY up to you whether or not you want him to have sex with your wife, KNOWING he is married and cheating. Else, where do we draw the line? Is it up to me to send a note to the entire community if I believe your wife had a hygiene problem? Should I call her out by name in a forum and label her as someone to stay away from? I think not. The question was whether or not the guy was real...he was...and, again, probably more "real" than most of the people on this site.[/quote]
[quote=TINKFROMHELL]I am really interested in the feature as it is suppose to help clear out the fake people on the site, right?? I just talked with a "Single Male" that is interested in hooking up with couples and single females. However he isn't single he is married and is looking to cheat on his wife. So why do we even have that feature when they verifies a liar.[/quote]
Sorry DE2OFUS, but you are wrong. The verification process is to verify that a Couple is is a real couple or a Single Female is a Single Female and not a Single Male masquerading as a couple or single female as a way to infiltrate the site being something other than a single male. That was happening at the beginning of this site. It caused a lot of problems. It is not a question of whether this person is a real person or not. But, if we were to take the Real Seal literally, it is for 'Verification' to prove that this person is what he claims. He claimed on his profile to be 'single'. He admitted he is NOT single. Therefore the verification would have been false as he was NOT a Real 'Single' Male. He was married, whether cheating or not.
[quote=ADMINISTRATOR] As a matter of fact [The VIP and REAL seal verification] was NEVER intended for single males and we actually stopped verifying them because people were thinking that we were vouching for them. The only purpose the seal serves is to know that you are truly talking to real couples or single females.
Single men have it hard as it is so why would anyone want to fake being one. And when we verify somebody, we do not verify their looks, age, color, build or any physical property so that doesn't help single men either. [/quote]
For the people who do care if the SM is lying or not, men like this do a great disservice to a SM like myself who is honest and truly single, not lying on his profile about his status. And remember that Swinging by it's nature must be about honest communication. It doesn't matter that this person 'admitted' a lie. What matters is that he LIED, and that the person who posted this question wanted him to be single, not a lying cheater.
Why so much hate in the swingers world... - - Don
We usually keep fairly quiet on the forums but I am bored tonight and actually done with my list of crap to do
Good to see ya online as well dont let go of the bottle or that image could be you ....
Why so much hate in the swingers world... - - I am saying that that logic doesn't justify intolerance. My analogy is logical. It's you that can't distiguish the meaning or ok in society, where it's impairative that we all get along to coexist safely and will our freedom intact. The majority say that swinging is wrong. Yet here you are. It is the KKK's opinion that blacks are monkeys and subhuman, does that make it socially acceptable? You're saying it's ok to be racist and or intolerant.
-D-
Looking For A Party This Weekend? - Big Bang 4th Of July Weekend At JJ's! - You found it! Come party at JJ Western Swing July 3, 4, & 5! You won't get kicked out at 3am at this party! No, at JJ's we go all night/weekend long and you can stay on premises - no need to rent a motel!
JJ's is located in beautiful Pahrump, Nevada; a short, scenic drive from Las Vegas. If you live in Nevada, Utah, Arizona, or California the drive will be well worth it! JJ's regularly attracts visitors from all of these states but the last thing you will find here is a "tourist trap". These are real life-stylers at a real lifestyle party! We already have people RSVP'd from all over the country as well as plenty of Vegas/Pahrump locals and the list is growing. (Last weekend we had real swinger couples from Pennsylvania and Salt Lake as well as ladies from Alabama and Atlantic City!) Come enjoy the sexy, no pressure atmosphere. Real swingers abound but first-timers and those investigating the lifestyle are always welcome!
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Looking to establish a group of safe swingers - - We would be interested.
Why so much hate in the swingers world... - - hey We hang out with rednecks that call themselves rednecks LOL and i have to say some of them are HOT! :)
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