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Tired of Politics and Religion! - - I humbly suggest that you folks get a grip! I believe this site is a national site? Do you hear the rest of the nation bitching when the forum turns into a Utah date-a-thon every Thursday through Saturday? Personally, it doesn't do a whole hell of a lot for me! Therefore, I should suggest you all knock it off? If all you care to converse about 24/7 is sex, maybe it would be a good idea to find additional outlets for your narrowly focused world! The popularity of some of the current threads would indicate to me that some swingers are able to discuss real life situations as well. Politics and religion are hot button topics and elicit strong emotions. Name-calling is likely to be a result. Solution - DON"T READ non-sex related threads. I don't happen to like name-calling, so I'm usually able to resist the temptation. But, the narrow-minded responses on this thread so far have me working on a few. :) Dale

Other Swinger sites in Utah - Anyone tell us of other sites? - if someone were to make a new swingers site for Utah, what functionalities would you want in it ?

Vegas Next Week - - Anybody gonna be in Vegas next week? Gonna hit up our first Swingers club. If so hit us up, let's hang.

Disabled Swingers - - "Disabled" is one of those heavily loaded but so vague it's actually meaningless words that our pop culture loves so much. This is a subject I am profounding involved in both personally and professionally. For example, did you know that alcoholism can be a disabling disease under federal regulations, and that alcoholics are protected under the Americans with Disabilities Act just like a child with Cerebral Palsy or a quadriplegic adult trauma survivor in a motorized wheelchair? That's a pretty wide range of conditions and causation! Woudn't you agree? I am a disabled veteran. A huge percentage of former NFL football players and professional fighters have "disabilities." Some CURRENT players do, too! I have a quadriplegic friend who has climbed Mt. Everest. I know an Army Sargeant who is serving in combat in Iraq and Afghanistan after losing both of his legs. And I know alcoholics whom I wouldn't trust to take out the trash. So this all seems very subjective, doesn't it? That's because it is! You cannot put people with disabilities in a box any more than you can people without disabilities. Therefore, it is equally impossible to know in advance whether or not you would be sexually attracted to them. You will have to meet them, get to know them a bit, and see for yourself. But make no mistake: "disabled" does NOT automatically apply to sex! One of the most profound Abilities of people with disAbilities, is the ability to adapt and improvise to compensate for their abnormalities. And some disabilities (like bipolar disorder, autism, etc.) are actually the OVER-abundance of things that normal people have and/or experience in smaller doses or less frequently. I'm sure you've all heard of the medical condition "Priapism" by now. This "something wrong with you" is when the male penis remains erect no matter what...the permanent boner. This condition can be painful, embarassing, highly inconvenient, and a helluva lot of fun for awhile! But to the person toting that thing around all the time, it becomes a disability. Get the idea?

Habits: Vanilla or Not? - How to tell the difference? - [quote=BMSHELL] This has been asked here many times before... [/quote] I figured. If only the forum search functionality would return something other than "The used table type doesn't support FULLTEXT indexes". One can always hack it through Google but that process leaves a bit to be desired. [quote=BMSHELL] 1) You can't tell by looking. [/quote] That's what we found too. We did not see a single pair of black rings walking around! ;) Though we did meet one couple that expressed regret for not wearing theirs once they noticed ours. [quote=BMSHELL] 2) If you really want to know, you'll have to ask them. [/quote] Certainly. We're just not inclined to ask unless we suspect something. The Mrs. was wondering whether a question like "Did we see you at Casino Royale?" might be enlightening. The reasoning is that only someone in the lifestyle will be familiar with the that event while others will take it to be a reference to the James Bond movie. [quote=BMSHELL] 3) Despite the fact that maybe 5% to 10% of the people there are swingers on any given weekend, it's not a swinger club, so if you're trying to meet swingers, it's very inefficient. [/quote] Meeting other swingers is definitely part of the motivation but we also like to dance. Our preference would be a swingers club with a dance floor. As far as we can tell that doesn't exist here so we're in search of the best approximation. [quote=BMSHELL] Sorry.. wish there was a better answer. [/quote] Thanks for the feedback none-the-less.

Swingers cars??? - What ya driving?? - Maybe in our wildest fantasy. [em]Emo_4[/em]

Polyamory - Pro's and con's of Polyamory - Question... As a new and exploring member, I find it difficult to understand where the difference is between FWB, Polyamory, and Swingers. Don't we all fall into the same lifestyle classification? I understand what each is, but maybe there is more for me to understand.

Am I hot or not.... - - :s Another SM looking for attention. What is this site coming to? I have not had a problem with the overly generous tolerance of SMs on this site, but lately it seems like SMs are getting out of control. If you have ever been to a nice swinger club in Florida, you will see the difference between Friday (SMs welcome) and Saturday nights (couples only). The reason: the SM "Towel Sharks" circle around the play areas looking to watch couples and maybe even get some for themselves. Sometimes the SMs get so aggressive with the couples, it often creates conflicts and drives couples away. On this site we are all supposed to be nice to the SMs and not bash them. I understand the need to be civil and respectful to everybody. I also know many of the couples here enjoy hooking up with SMs (we are guilty of that multiple times ourselves). Of course, many SMs are nice guys who lay low and don't cause problems. Having said that... This post, the Mr. "Save-A-Life" post, and all the other stupid SM "Look at ME" posts, are really screwing this site up. In our book (and probably the majority of other reasonable people's opinions) SWINGERS are "couples" looking for other "couples". Sure swinger couples often look for a single to join, but its usually a female (highly prized) and not a male (over supply). SMs are not swingers. They are looking for some poontang and all too often they assume that swingers have loose women to share with them. Come on guys... get your own girl and THEN join the party. Hanging around here, perving on pics, and hoping for some strange, does not make you a SWINGER! With an over-supply of SMs, they have to resort to aggressive self-promotion in order to get noticed. This silly thread here is another example of that. Come on people. Its time to stop "feeding the cats".

Young swingers party - sold out, who still wants to party ? - I should probably add that if you didn't get tickets and you'd still like to attend, let me know and I can put you on the waitlist in case someone else cancels... (which, given how many people there are coming, is likely that a few spots will open up). Sorry for the thread-hijack Looking4Fun.... Back to the topic! Who wants to hang out with M&T? They're HOT! (Can vouch!)

swingin - thought this site was a swingers site - Ya know what??? This all works two ways here. The most honorable Don and his faithful following continue to bash people for speaking their mind, but yet they preach that it's their right to post whatever they want. Isn't it funny that when Don thought he was gonna get banned that he got so humble and apologetic. Now that he thinks he's in admins good graces and can do what he wants, he's right back at it. Here's a thought Don.... Why don't YOU be the one to leave and start your own forum site so you can put everyone down and be in control of the whole thing? And for your information, don't be so confident that the majority has spoken. Only your followers have. I believe the real deal is that the MAJORITY ignores your idiotic antics. There, there's more fuel for your fire. You should be able to write for days now telling me what an illiterate low life I am. Have fun with it. It's my opinion that you should be gone and I'm stickin to it.