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I’m defense of single males - Funny old geezers - [quote=DELICIOUSLYWET][quote=PARTYINLV]We are in our sixth year on this site. We are also currently on three more sites, even after dropping two more. When we joined Swingular, we were taken aback from the negativity toward single guys. We did not see this this level of animosity on any other of the sites we are or were on.
Aside from the folks from Idaho and Wyoming (and very, very few nationwide), this site is predominately Utah based. I am not negatively judging Utah since a survey or research was never done, but we had to wonder if this hatred is a Utah thing. Or was it a few couples who made it seem normal to hate and everyone just jumped on the bandwagon? Human history has taught us that ostracizing is easier than accepting. Who knows? We certainly don't understand it.
Many couples correctly point out that single guys are not [b]"swingers"[/b] since they don't swap. But, we believe that single guys are part of the [b]"lifestyle"[/b] for many couples. Why is fmf ok, but mfm is not ok?
As a side note: The vast majority of our play is with couples(our preference). But we occasionally like mfm for the different dynamics it offers. We have been very lucky with mfm and haven't had a bad experience yet, which I cannot say is always true with every couple we've met.[/quote]
We live here. Our experience is that most couples do not hate single men. Most married men are not intimidated by the presence of single men. Most couples and singles whether super active or rarely active in the lifestyle don’t post anything in the forum section of this website. As is the case with so much on the internet, a few of us that do read or post in the forums, may give others the impression that we are a good general representation of the community’s mindset. Obviously we aren’t. What we read here is mostly just personal preferences. There are some thoughts expressed that we find interesting, sometimes enlightening. Sometimes people are just venting. Sometimes it’s angry venting stemming from personal experience. As for insecurities, we all have at least a few.[/quote]
Perhaps I am just mistaking the complaints I see in forums on the home page as a reflection of the general attitude here
Sexy swingers closer to our age - 20-30 year old sexy swingers - Who would interested in attending a meeting and greet of couple close to our age? We have a big group of friends already but would love to meet more of you on this tread!
Invatation to swingers. - open letter against Dr. Phil - "only people who dont get laid enough seem to complain about the Lifestyle ? All we can say is "Go Get Laid" and Clean up your Own Back Yard First ! "
Not sure what was meant by this? Not even really sure who it was directed toward.
uncut penis - are most woman turn off when a man is uncut - My perspective is perhaps a little unique as I decided myself to get circumcised. My parents chose not to circumcise me as an infant and it was tough growing up in an era where it was done almost universally. I was the only kid I knew growing up who was [i]different[/i] down there. It wasn't as big of a deal as an adult until we started swinging. In general, most swingers didn't think it was a big deal (I was always meticulous about my hygiene) and some of the women even enjoyed very much the novelty as many had never seen an uncut cock. Ultimately, about 15 years or so ago, I decided to get circumcised. I'm both glad I did it AND regret it as my penis is far less sensitive now. Nowadays, as fewer parents are subjecting their sons to unnecessarily cutting off the foreskin, we are seeing more and more uncut cocks so I think it's slowly becoming less of a stigma in swinging.
The vent! - Judgements, I'm so tired of them. - Ah,
It's a decision we all live with - ebb and flow with. There are interesting things that occur within as Swingers, but the changes are pretty much within.
Learn to let go of what doesn't matter. Hold on to what does. In the end, live and let live! They are entitled to be as well as you.
So...just get in the mud and have a good time!
---------------K_T
"Loyalty to petrified opinion never yet broke a chain or freed a human soul in this world--and never will."
Mark Twain
Other activities? - Do you only meet swingers for sex? - We absolutely do other things with our play friends. We\'ve gone to the movies, stayed in and watched movies, made dinner for each other, gone to the beach. Some of our out-of-town friends have stayed overnight at our house. As much as we do enjoy play time with our friends sometimes its not always possible to play so why not have some fun hanging out with them anyway?
We prefer to play with people who we enjoy talking and spending time with. Much of the talking happens online through here, email or IM as we all seem to be pretty busy most of the time. We aren\'t into one night stands and prefer there to be more than just sex, so we do like to actually spend time with couples first to get a feel for who they are and how well we get along. We view it as if we can\'t feel comfortable having dinner at a restaurant with you or hanging out and talking with you for a little bit, we wouldn\'t feel comfortable getting into bed with you.
Why Be In Utah? - - Actually I've always wondered the same thing about Florida. Substitute the crazy Mormons for the Bibile thumpers from Orlando north into the panhandle, add in the hurricanes, torrential rains, gaters, snakes and mosquitos...besides, I've heard the snow skiing is HORRIBLE there. But I'll bite.
1) No porn. You can buy dirty magazines but (unless you know where to go) hard core x-rate movies are technically illegal to sell. A non-issue in the internet age. If you're still buying dvd's at the local porn emporium you need to maybe update your computer or your media server or something.
2) No real beer. Again a myth. You can only buy 4% (by volume) beer in grocery stores but you can get full strength beer at state liquor stores, restaurants and places like brewery stores. Try getting ANYTHING to drink in some dry towns/counties in the Bible Belt.
3) True to some extent, although Salt Lake City itself is VERY eclectic and quite liberal politically. But at least our LDS lawmakers know basic female anatomy and have somewhat of a grasp of proven basic science. No kooky evangelicals freaking out every time someone mentions birth control or evolution.
4) Most people are afraid of Mormons? Really? I've heard they have horns and the missionaries CAN be a little annoying when you're fucking and they're ringing the doorbell but I don't think people are truly afraid. Besides, contrary to popular belief the swing scene here is alive, active and vibrant. I'd wager that per capita we have more, and more active, swingers than just about any place you can name. All that repressed Mormon sexuality eventually bubbles to the surface and until you've fucked a formerly repressed little Mormon girl who's discovering her sexuality you, my friend, haven't fucked! :-)
Getting Threesomes - - Secrets hide away in Orlando FL is a really good swingers private club there's crazy sex partying going on every where ..
Labor Day Weekend - - [quote=WITH_A_WHISPER]Oh someone told me it was basically a swing club.... Not the case?
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nope. not a swing club. its not any louder/pricier than the majority of clubs. only quieter spots are typically the smaller type bars. it used to be that a ton of swingers attended regularly but its never been "bascially a swingers club".
Swinger friendly clubs in the Bay Area? - Places to meet up - We don’t get out much but we would like to find a place in the Bay Area of CA we’re swingers come go meet and relax and be ourselves. Anyone know of such an area?
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