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Finding a balance - Swinging and Religion - - [quote=ABCMAN]http://www.libchrist.com/swing/happysafestudies.html someone asked about Christian swinging groups...we'll here ya go. I think the animosity in Utah about religion comes from one direct source in most cases (LDS Church).. but of course some of the Christian (fundamentalist...bible beating) crazies can drive one crazy as well. The reality is that I have not seen a man made religion yet that isn't focused on control of it's flock. My question is how much did Christ push the idea of a church and how much of it was his disciples and Paul later on in the bible. Cliffnotes, I actually think you make a good point...context is so important in reading ancient documents, and the bible would classify as one. To use 21st century definitions or perceptions is useless in understanding 60 AD Jerusalem. I do think that you make a good point regarding David and Solomon, but of course the counter to that is that the Lord gave them their wives and concubines (,,,,Joseph Smith and the Mormons think this way...) Personally I don't see why a GOD would only give a King many wives and not the common bloke out in the wheat field, and frankly I wouldn't put much stock in some Old Testament tale or atleast the justification for them having many wives. I'm sure God really didn't give them anymore then anyone else. As for swinging, my personal feeling is that if your intent is not to harm, be in physical, be it emotional, then go for it. But that can cover a wide range of possible situations. I think there are ethical issues that always need to be addressed if your going to last long in the lifestyle. #1 Don't break rules you and your significant other set up between one another, and always communicate. #2 If it isn't a gift to one another, then maybe you need to reevaluate why your doing it. #3 If your looking at it as an escape, then you maybe doing harm to your partner or another persons marriage. #4 If your single and looking for a long term mate, then don't covet some other persons spouse, no matter what they may say or do. If he/she is falling for you, then do the ethically thing and break it off. It just causes harm to everyone involved in those situations, and don't think for a minute that you won't suffer long term ramifications from that type of situation. I'd let the couple work it out or they leave on another before I'd get involved again with that person. #5 Safe Sex, not only for you but your partner and others as well. (Golden Rule) if these sound patronizing then I apologize, but personally this is the approach I've taken, and my wife as well. So far it's worked out well. [/quote] Good post! By Groups I am talking about the groups that will soon be available on this site. In another site there was a group called Christian Swingers, it was very interesting and educational. I seem to remember a LDS swingers group also. But that is a good website you posted.

Polyamory - three (or more)-way RELATIONSHIPS - Hi, I've been closely associating with poly individuals for about seven years now. Find your local poly group(s) http://ohiovalleypoly.150m.com/ Make it a point to attend as many meetings and functions as you can. Keep in mind that some poly people (some) turn their nose up at the idea of swinging, just as many swinging people turn their nose up at poly. Also don't be deterred if you start attending poly meetings and don't see the kind of people you normally hang out with, your tribe, so to speak. The benefit isn't finding your people as it is in meeting people with lots of experience with poly-relationships. You can learn from anyone who has been where you are heading. Making up your own rules is great, so long as they work for you and your family. Here in Utah there are circulating groups. We have swingers, poly, kinky, burners and in each group there are the core members (hardcore) and then there are those of us that circulate among them all. So, when attending meetings be aware that one day their might be four people, the next 40. Also that the opinions of the core members may not be representative of the life you three have created for yourselves and don't let anyone sway you from what you know works for you. Congratulations, don't ever let small minded people make you feel bad. I wish you all the best.

Why so much hate in the swingers world... - - Alton, I do not deny that. Hilter, the KKK, Stalin, Osama Bin Ladin all had/have their opinions. Does that justify their actions??? NO. thats killing,,' i do believe we are talking about sex,,and single men don't confused the two,,you have a way of doing that.. now if we where talking about that,,then my opinion would be different,,lol

Are swingers moral? - Who determines what morals are? - Neuroscience makes morality out to be largely born in and more complicated than just "stuff god doesn't like". For example, what one may see as an immoral act may in fact be quite honorable to someone in that person's in group. A gang banger seems immoral when he kills a rival gang member but a soldier is doing the same thing except that we call the gangs nations. What religion manages to do is take false credit for morality so that it can attach additional memes on so we get motivated to do those too. This amounts to "lying is bad so sex must be bad too". The problem with buying into that logic is that not everything churches say are bad actually are and can even override true morality. For instance, a religious hatred of homosexuals. This doesn't always happen and there are many influencing factors (again morality is quite complicated according to neuroscience) but it is often a potent driving factor. The short answer is that the more people you include in your in group the more people you will act morally toward.

Young swingers party - sold out, who still wants to party ? - [quote=ERASEDPANTS][quote=BMSHELL]I should probably add that if you didn't get tickets and you'd still like to attend, let me know and I can put you on the waitlist in case someone else cancels... (which, given how many people there are coming, is likely that a few spots will open up). Sorry for the thread-hijack Looking4Fun.... Back to the topic! Who wants to hang out with M&T? They're HOT! (Can vouch!) [/quote] Who are M&T? I also have to say Bshell, you do a great job of promoting without being pushy. I always admired that about you two. You seem very authentic and kind. We like that!

We have heard about it many times........... - Couples that are swingers - Yeas, I have found some of the advice to be helpful too and from that experience and now yours I am learning that even the single male has questions he needs to ask and some checking to do before playing. Have a happy new year all.

Lake Powell 2013? - - We would like to join the trip timing sounds good. We have a boat and truck to pitch in we can have couples ride with us if need be. was just curious because we new to the swingers thing. is it balls to the walls or what happens happens no push or a free for all lets hang and have fun.Would also like to know what to bring so can plan.

Posting Digital Pictures - - As a former amateur photographer and hobbiest, I find that a lot of you folks are not fully aware of the ability of your camera to , not only TAKE pictures, in a variety of sizes but also to post them in a size that people can see. I REALLY shouldn't be upset but, I really don't have anything better to do than complain. ROFLMFAO Okay, so here's what you do.... First , FIND your owners manual from wherever you hid it, this is undoubtedly the MAN's fault, since men think they can get along without an owners manual. (Hey, I'm a man too. I KNOW of what I speak (or in this case type). hehehe After you have found the manual, READ the part that deals with how to get the best picture (pixels or megs) from YOUR particular brand of camera. THEN, take some quality shots and post THEM and remove the ones we can't see anyway (without a magnifying glass). Check out THOUGHTGARDEN's profile pics sometime. They are THE MOST CREATIVE COUPLE (as far as pics) (can't say about swinging).That I've ever had the pleasure of ogling. I crack myself up sometimes. Oh well. I'm OLD. GIVE ME A BREAK. Okay next part of the equation. This is a subject that I gave a talk on at a swingers convention in Chicago a few years ago. CONTENT of your picture. Ladies, you are NOT defined by your tits, or you shouldn't be. You are MORE than just a set of "fun bags". Men, I'll get to you in a second. Ladies , I KNOW you are worried about someone you know seeing your pics and "outing" you to all your friends and neighbors. BZZZZT, wrong answer. If they have taken the time (and money) to explore the pics on Swingular, then, they MUST be swingers too. If you MUST cover your face, (digital is a little harder than film), I would suggest making a print (on glossy stock) (better detail) and then use some electrical tape, cut to size, just covering the face. Pay attention to backgrounds, if you are scared, then you don't want pics of the kiddies or mom and dad in the background. Best bet is to hang up a multicolored sheet for the background. OKay, MEN, YOU are not defined by your penis, or you shouldn't be (where have I heard THAT before?). This Cock size thing has gotten way out of proportion ( did I just say that?). If a woman NEEDS a bigger cock, then she is NOT doing her kegel exercises. If you don't believe me , ask your doctor. Men, you should be doing kegals too. The stronger those muscles the more you can "twitch" inside a woman. Ask any woman, they LIKE that. So, guys, take pics of MORE than just your cock. See above for suggestions. Full body shots, artfully posed, are the ticket. Whether you be man or woman. Action shots are a whole nother kettle of stew. I'll save that for another forum. AFTER , I get yelled at for THIS one. LOL Would love to hear what YOU have to say on the topic. Oh, BTW, I maybe divorced NOW, but, I was married for eighteen years and we were swinging for all but the first six months of our marriage. We ever met with a couple the weekend before the final papers were signed. So, I'm NOT a "no-nothing" single guy. Swingonmyvine

Memorial day weekend swingers party in tooele. - (READ FULL POST) Hosting our first party the weekend or memorial day on saturday the 25th - Ok so attempt 2: after we tried for the 11th only to have my wifes work made it impossible to do. We are now having our swingers party on saturday the 25th during memorial day weekend. This will be a super chill atmoshpere and will not be a massive open door party. We have a few guest already but welcome some more for sure. This party will be at our house in tooele. We will have several rooms set up for hangingout/playing. Along with drinks and naughty games as well. So please enjoy yourselves. That said, there are some rules and disclaimers that we want out there 1) if you play use protection. We will have latex and non-latex condoms for use. 2)No means no. If a couple or single females tells you no do not push your luck. 3)this is a party, come to our house ready to hangout. Not to fuck. We have neighbors and lives. 4) any rooms labeled do not enter... do not enter. (Mostly our kids room and the garage) 5) respect each others rules. If a couple wants to play but shes not into anal then no anal also if there is someone not wanting to be recorded or pictured then dont. Disclaimers!!! 1) alcohal is available that being said we expect a very late night if you need to crash or sober up please do so. We will not be responsible for drunk drivers so if you cant drive sleep or better yet fuck it off ;-) 2) we are not open to single males!!! We have some already in mind if we feel we dont have enough couples. They will be contacted if we should allow it. Dont contact us asking to join. You wont. 3)this is open to all couples but we are in tooele. If your willing to make that drive then your welcome to come. If you live in tooele all the better. 4) do not reply to this post saying "i'm in" directly message us please Thats is all hope to see some of you there

Age - New to the swingers community - is age a factor in how a couple is viewed? - We have been with couples in there twenties as well as couples in there fifty. We have found that as long as the appearance and attitude is pleasant, age don