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Just looking for other couples happy with super soft and no swap - There must be more of us out there? - [quote=SEXYMOOSE]TaterTot, Interesting, but recently at a party ( invited via this site) a single female we know was extremely frustrated that she busted her ass to set up daycare for the night, go to a party and have it be 10pm and nobody was playing. She told us that soft swappers wreck the parties, and bring down the energy. She claimed they love to mingle and dance but they promote an atmosphere of physical (contact) insecurity that everyone has to deal with. Her view was very firm that it's a swing party for swinging, and until the soft-swappers get shocked or drama themselves home, nothing happens till 3am. Not sure if that is totally the case, and it may be really a result of posers ( "social engineered" want to be's). However, we don't see that out of state nearly as much as in the salty city, regardless of full or softies in the mix. [/quote] And this is why I am terrified of house parties. I don't want to be pressured into performing. Sometimes peoples thing is to JUST WATCH. While I would resent someone trying to force me into participating, I would never suggest that fucking at a swingers party is inappropriate either. Some people are exhibitionists and some aren't. And after all the drama about drunk/pushy hosts, rude guests, couple fights, and so forth I have heard about recently, I'm not convinced I'm missing anything.

Obama's Roadtrip - - [quote]Fair enough. Then why rely on them for anything that likely wasn't adequately studied?[/quote] Likely just does not do it for me...When the numbers are given AND shown how they were gathered, I tend to believe they are fairly accurate. [quote]Let's take your Pepsi/Coke example. There is likely nothing befuddling about your scenario. Just one possibility: Where are the two Florida products bottled? Maybe it's the water.[/quote] Both bottled locally, it is chalked up to being a preferance thing. In WI, lived there for a while, it was called pop or soda, unless a VERY specific thing was needed, a Mountain Dew for instance. In the south, it is a Coke no matter what it is. If someone in the south offers a Coke, it could be Pepsi, Mountain Dew, Diet Rite, Sam's Club Soda, etc. [quote]I'm glad you agree with the logic. My Bachelor's is in Social Welfare (Psych Minor). Human nature is only a bitch of a thing when you get out there a few standard deviations. The bulk of us are as predictable as rats.[/quote] Believe it or not, I have 2 BA's (econ and int. rel.) with a minor in social work. So I am very aware of social science standards and SOME believe that we're predictable. If you have a smaller sample, we are fairly predictable, especially when the sample is taken from a specific group of people (swingers for instance, better yet, swingers in a specific region), once you get to the larger populations (nationwide for instance), human behavior is not easily quantified. Try being the ONLY conservative in all the social work classes, it was fun! Then again, opinions are like assholes, everyone has one. [quote]I propose that as an economist you are simply looking at things with a limited perspective. [/quote] Possibly, but I also have a rare ability to look at it from an outsider's view.... [quote]There is simply no question that if a person's basic needs (food and shelter) are met, there is less motivation to risk the consequences of violating societal rules.[/quote] I can see the logic of this, however, we are Americans, we always want MORE, we are constantly bombarded with images of MORE, we are constantly told that without MORE we are incomplete, etc. What are the consequences of violating societal rules? Food, shelter, clothing, TV, etc? Really tough there. Look at prisons in Mexico, if your family does not provide, you starve, more than likely. THAT is consequences, it is a deterrant (sp?). IMHO, one of the reasons for our increased crime rates is the lack of public punishment. If every time you turned around, you saw a group of people in black and white stripes mowing lawns, trimming trees, etc. on the side of the road in leg chains, it would cut crime considerably. If they did public executions, it would cut crime dramatically. Then again, I am a staunch supporter of heavy penalties for crimes, especially when they are repeat offenders, most of the social scientists are not. They want more rehab and such, which I also support, BUT only for first timers, not for repeat offenders. Anyway, I am thoroughly enjoying our debate... Next!

Hollywood Swingers? - - I believe Gene Simmins and his lovely Gal are but i don't think that is news to anybody,,I'm not Famous but I was in that band Wall Of Voodoo who did that song "Mexican Radio"

Polyamory - polyanorous couples. - [b]By general definition all swingers are polyamorous.[/b] Polyamory (from Greek ???? [poly, meaning many or several] and Latin amor [love]) is the practice, desire, or acceptance of having more than one intimate relationship at a time with the knowledge and consent of everyone involved. Polyamory is a less specific term than polygamy, the practice or condition of having more than one spouse. The majority of polygamous cultures are traditionally polygynous, where one husband has multiple wives. Polyandrous societies, in which one wife has multiple husbands, are less common but do exist. Marriage is not a requirement in polyamorous relationships.

can we swing and still not be in sin ? - - Since I've been sucked into the swirling vortex of this thread, the only way I can feel like I haven't been robbed of the last 1/2 hr (give or take) of my life is to add my .02 Ok, I know I could just chalk it up to that which doesn't kill me only makes me stronger, but adding my input seems more satisfying. I'll start off by saying that if you are doing this much research regarding religions and what they allow or don't allow regarding sexual activity it has to make me wonder if you're seriously considering converting to another religion just to save yourself the guilt of sin brought upon by whatever religion you happen to be at the moment. All religions have been formed and molded over the years by people. People who are not perfect, who have their own agendas. A sense of right and wrong doesn't come solely from religion. Many religions would like you to think that in an attempt to keep you in their camp and they'll be more than happy to tell you what is right and wrong for the rest of your life (in case you can't think for yourself). But if you have to switch religions just so that you can sleep at night after a fun-filled evening of swinging, you have some other things to figure out. Or perhaps you should just start you're own religion, where you can make all the rules. In any case, I think its fairly safe to say that most religions believe quite strongly that those of us engaging in the swinging lifestyle are sinning by engaging in immoral activities, just cuz they don't use the actual word sin, doesn't mean anything. Its just more politically correct these days to say immoral. In any case though, they most certainly believe that we (swingers) will most definitely be going to a very special level of hell, a level reserved for... (sorry, narrowly avoided an obsure pop culture reference) As for me, yes I believe there is a God. And one of the few things that I think is accurately stated repeatedly in the bible is to love thy neighbor and I'm more than happy to spread the love around in whatever way/shape is available to me. -SG

Latest Tiger Woods Family Portrait - - One thing I love about a forum it does expose those folks with NO SENSE of humor. All the late night shows are having fun with this story, I can't wait to see what SNL has to offer, should be a hoot. If we can make fun photos and jokes about "Presidents" (and we have for as long as I can remember) I don't think a "golfer" should be off limits, which of course [u]he's not[/u]. Here's some jokes posted in another swingers forum here in Florida, so far I haven't seen anyone there start [b]whining and crying [/b]about the jokes. Perhaps our over exposure to sunshine has caused our [b]HUMOR ORGAN [/b]to become [b]ENLARGED[/b]. Apparently the police asked Tiger's wife how many times she hit him. She said "I don't know exactly

Young swingers party - sold out, who still wants to party ? - ...and the sign said long haired freaky people need not apply or those 45 and older. So...heading to Vegas for AVN weekend and four incredible nights of parties put on by PURRFECTLV. Anyone else leaving the great state of Utah for the real deal? Party like a Porn Star! Alexis Park - Parthenon Ballroom Massive 15,000 sq. foot ballroom transformed to an upscale sexy lounge complete with large dance floor, multiple stripper stages, go-go cages, ultra lounge furniture, state-of-the-art lighting and sound. Multiple Bars throughout.

Pink flamingo - How many swingers have a pink flamingo in their front yard? - We do!😁

This one time at Swingers Camp - Discussion about N by N camp out - Oh it was beyond fun :) can't wait for the next one.