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The Vent part II - Secrecy - I once heard it put *I dont grow potatos where I get my meat*, I prefer to say *I dont play in my own backyard*. I know... I'm just one of *those* single men. You know, it doesnt sound like you give your *vanilla* friends much credit. You assume *they* would not enjoy a local *off premise* swingers club. Have you ever sat your vanilla friends down and talk to them (feel them out so to speak), to see if they are looking for ways to *spice* up their relationship? I've taken many *vanilla* women to the local swinger clubs. Ok, so some wont go back, but others are like *wow, that was fun!! I'm not into swinging and swapping, but these people are great!* Here in the Dallas / Ft Worth area, the lifestyle is HOT and happening! There are at least 7 off premise clubs, and as many on premise clubs. Plus many swingers in the area prefer going to the *vanilla* clubs to pick up men, women, and other couples. In MHO, IF, and I say IF, you go to a swinger club hoping/looking/expecting to pick up someone, I feel you've gone for the wrong reason. Go to have fun, meet new people, network, and IF you find someone at the club you enjoy being with, then I'm sure *as they say here in Texas* ya'll are going to have some swapping fun.... And yes, I have been part of a couple, with a few different women. Why am I not still a couple with any of them? They seem to start really getting into the lifestyle, and then they realize they're having too much fun, and scare themselves out of it. Oh yeah, and I'm the asshole single male, the most unwanted animal in the lifestyle. lol

Other activities? - Do you only meet swingers for sex? - I\'d say that the closest friendship we currently *have* - has included both playtimes - and times when everybody was clear that we were *not* playing. We encountered the couple on a nude-camera page, so first contact was \"sexual intentions\" and we got to know each other and had a period of increasing sexual intensity. But then one of the people tired of the sex and we just shut it off - but spend lots of time together doing just about everything. The *best* relationships, I think, integrate playtime: what else *can* be as intimate as sex? But a good relationship doesn\'t depend on sex, either.

YOLO Cruise April 26 2009 - swingers cruise - We'll be going from Philly. There's about 20 of us (10 couples) from our club going, plus some additional friends. Our Cabin is 4137. Stop buy to say hello, we're looking forward to a great time with new people.

RECOGNIZING OTHER SWINGERS - Outside of clubs & parties. - They did wrist bands before with some numbers that meant swingers. But I think it's much easier and straight-forward to come here.

Why so much hate in the swingers world... - - As a couple we have played with single gentlemen many many times over the years. The only time that I can consider upleasent feelings or hate ever came up with any single is when I was told by him to please leave the room while he made it with my wife. We show that we do not play alone ( I do not mind watching her have fun at all ), and will often just watch. As couples the single gents must realize it may not be hate but protectiveness of our loved ones. It does only take one bad apple to ruin it for many. If the couple does not want to have contact with a single, they should just block them is all. Or just make it clear that both parties will always be present. No way do I mean to offend any single guy out there or single lady, both have the right to pursue their desires and pleasures.

Camper talk - Swing parties in campers have you done it - [quote=DRAGONPUPS]We regularly camp with other swingers. RVs are always rocking at night. Word of caution, don't put 4 active people on one end of a pop-up trailer; it doesn't end well. :) Needless to say, we have a full-size RV now.[/quote] Yea I wouldn’t imagine it would that’s why we brought a class A with hydraulic jacks

Fantasy Fest - - We already said we're going, but one highlight will be a C/O Sunset cruise on Wed the 27th, that based on last year is the most fun, erotic, wildest time at FF. It's being organized by a group from another site that are mostly swingers. Not much money, and only a few hours with all you can drink. I hope some of you heard about it, and are going. You could ask us for more info. Sure hope to see some from this site, and know your from here. R & K

To protect or not to protect - that is the question. - - MY only thought is why would you have unprotected sex with couples? Especially couples that are swingers and are having sex with multiple partners!! I mean the old saying goes when you sleep with someone you sleep with everyone they have slept with! I guess to each is own but I don't know how you would want to put yourself at that kind of risk???

Why so much hate in the swingers world... - - I don't think anyone is saying you should give single guys a try. No matter whether you motivations are insecurity, racism or just plain not turned on by it, you shouldn't feel pressured into something you're not into. However, it's not cool to come into a thread that's directed to those that are interested in them and spread intolerant messages about them, because you don't like them. In other words, it was an AB conversation C your way out. LOL! I don't mean that directly to you AKLIM. I mean that to anyone that would make it their mission to spread intolerance of a group out of sheer spite. That kind of shit should no exist in our community. No one is asking anyone to do something they're not willing to do, but on the same token, don't get on a soap box and spread hatred of anyone, just because you don't agree. If a single guy is at a party and you pack up and leave because you've got this preconceived notion that all single males are pigs and are just waiting for you to take a piss, so they can approach your wife, while you're away... I say this... 1) So what? Is your wife not capable of handling herself? 2) Are you not capable of saying, "Hey, Sorry man, we're not into single guys." I see that as no different that taking care of a couple you're not interested in. Quite frankly, there are far more asshole, disrespectful men in couples that we've encountered, then the single variety. I know of a very respectful single male in the West Valley area that was a total gentleman and opens his home to couples so that they have a haven to party naked! lol. -D-

People Who Try Too Hard - - Whoever could you mean??? LOL http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/forum http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/conversationalist If there is an ongoing debate in the forum (it's usually called a discussion... The very point of a forum), then wouldn't you agree that the likelihood of someone involved in a conversation, posting more than one time, is pretty damn good? Ask yourselves, how many one sentence or one statement conversations have you had in life? People who enjoy or seek this in forums are called "conversationalists". It's not wrong to get to know others. That is, after all, the reason we are all here. The poster puts their view out and the reader can decide whether they agree, disagree or desire to further discuss or elaborate on their side. It's like a dance of the minds. Some like the waltz, some like salsa, while others like a Mosh Pit. Just because you don't mosh doesn't mean that you should attempt to deny others of enjoying it. Tolerance is what I am getting at. I am a self-proclaimed asshole, but I still have the right to express myself. I have differing views from lots of people here. That's what I find to be beautiful about people. We are all unique in some form or another. It's uncovering those uniquities, I find to be the "buried treasures" among the vast diversity of people that post here. It's a small window into their being. You don't always like what you see, but it's still there no matter how much you complain. It's like those who had DJQ kicked off of here. I hated his views and all for which he stood, but in the end all he was guilty of was written expression of his view. Many wanted his head to roll and had him removed. Why? Because he didn't agree. Hell, he attacked my very service to this country. I hated his views. However, I still think he had the right to speak his heart. Admittedly, The forum became slightly less exciting after he left. The majority who read the forum remember what a prick he was, but they do remember him. He contributed to the conversation, no matter how skewed we felt his leftist position to be. I'll close my post with this... We are swingers... Don't you think people would disagree with our lifestyle choices, our views on marriage and the morale implications (if you are religious)? Furthermore, doesn't it all come down to personal choice. Just like you have the choice not to read this very post. :-) Just my thoughts, nothing more. Respectfully, -Mr TR- P.S. I whole-heartedly invite you to tell me to fuck off for my differing view. :-)