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Where are all the MEN - looking for men that arent afraid of furthering the aspect of sex - Where are all the couples with men that are looking to further SEX. Most women would agree that they would love to give a man the sensations that they (if they do) enjoy of anal sex and dont be fooled women all know that the male prostate is basically the same as a womans G-spot and you know how they are about that lil goody HIT IT RUB IT ABBBBUUUSE IT PLEEAAASE!. I do not believe that women enjoy watching men kiss however. You want your lady friend to enjoy anal dont you. And if she does I am sure that she would want to give you the same pleasure. If nothing else I am sure it is one of her dirty lil fantasies. Women have more and dirtier fantasies than we have ever tried to cum up with guys. I was told about 9 yrs ago by a regular swinger in the lifestyle for yrs. that all swingers are bisexual. Which made sense, swingers are people that enjoy the fullness of sex and wants to share the diversity of it with others. So where are all the men that are comfortable enough with their sexuality to at least be interested in what women are enjoying about sex. We cannot be the only couple in SE Mi that feel this way. Do we need to move to UT there seems to be lots of nice profiles there! Congratulations Utah!

Exclusive Couples - couples who are committed to another couple - Ok! You have heard from someone who is poly....ME. But we are still swingers and no one expects us to be exclusive either.... anymore than we expect them to remain true to us and us alone. Polyamorous is a conjunction of a Greek and a Latin word. Means to love more than one.....I don't fall in love with everyone that we have sex with but I do have 2 secondary relationships. One woman is separated and we met her in the lifestyle.. We love, yes WE love her as much as people can feel love. The other were seeing what swinging was about and came to a club that we attend. The lady and I started talking and then on line and we discovered that we loved each other. I stopped by their house and talked to her husband and we, that couple and us are great friends and she and I are lovers.... and everything is open and above board. Recently while I was in the hospital from a heart attack, they came to visit everyday. So poly really isn't about swinging at all but there are poly people in swinging who are looking for exclusive relationships... I let people know that I'm poly because if the lady and I hit it off...... I don't want any surprises... BUT I never go looking for that type of loving relationship in the swinging community, i.e., "the lifestyle" I think that some people use the word without a true understanding of what poly really is... Poly can involve sexual relationships but those are based on love not sexual recreation. My wife is not basically poly however, she loves that lady who is not attached as much as I do... so in a way she may be poly but does not wish to define herself that way. When talking about poly and swinging one has to make a distinction as to what people are looking for in a relationship. And, let's not kid ourselves...swinging and sex with people outside of your marriage or relationship is really a relationship aleit maybe a short lived one but one all the same. I'm just a person who can and does love more than one person. Like being hetro or BI or whatever..... that's just part of my make up.. I have chosen to be a swinger and if it lead to something I hope that I have let people know ahead of time and found out their feelings on that possibility... If they are not open to that but are sexually attracted, then we can keep it on that basis and I simply have to be aware. I think it can best be analoged to a couple or one of the partners in a couple being bi. They find a couple to play with but that couple are not bi or have no curiosity in that bent.... So they play and the bi part is never an issue because they discussed it beforehand and everybody was fine with the situation.... I belong to a poly group here in my state. the group is more a discussion group although they get together once a month and every mon or Fri to discuss poly issues. Most of the people who are in that group, over 300, will say that poly and swinging are two entirely separate issues and they are totally unrelated. There are a number of members, both single and couples, who are also listed on swinger sites....They are looking for sexual companionship and maybe, if it happens, loving relationships... So poly and swinging are not so exclusive nor does it mean that poly swingers are only looking for LTRs any more than bi women will only play with couples who have bi women in them.... Being poly of Bi ain't an issue...playing is... There may be some who are in the lifestyle to find lovers... Easy to find out and make a decission about....

Wow ....check this out... - - I agree with HUNNY_BUNNY in some respects. Depending on the comments made earlier, it would be hypocritical to allow some comments and not others. BUT This is a swingers site. Political narrow mindedness shouldn't be thrown around here. I am a moderate and although I don't like everything George W says or does, I dislike the way the Democratic party has handled their grievences even more. They keep giving the enemy political and moral victories left and right every time they say some poorly worded crap about the war. This is all just pay back for the witch hunt the Republicans gave Clinton. I think both sides need to grow up and quit acting like children and come to a common ground. While we are still above ground and not 6 feet under. So lets drop all the politics, and get back to what this site is about.

Amazing Elite Halloween Party - - Most swingers are respectful. You are certainly in the right crowd. CB&KB

Here's something Ive been curious about - - I am a SF. I enjoy playing with couples and with single males. I hate the bull shit that single guys on other sites put us single ladies through! Most of the SM's I have met on here have been really respectful and understanding. There have been couples I have met that are not so respectful. To me, swinging is about meeting with like minded people to enjoy yourself. Regardless of if play is involved or not. I enjoy the openness of the lifestyle, the opportunity to meet people who feel the same way I do and the ability to have the option of play if all involved feel so inclined. Whether male or female, swinging is a lifestyle. If they are living that lifestyle, they are swingers in my book.

Disabled Swingers - - Someone being disabled for us is not a factor. We have learned over the years that if we had only chosen good looking, fit, active people then we would have missed out on the best times we ever had. If someone has a great personality and a desire to have fun, there is some chemistry then hell yes, lets have some fun.

Are you still interested! - Dynamics amoung swingers - Two comments I am going to try to keep short. First.. there are the couples we see somewhat regularly, we enjoy the more intimate moments with them, but we need to take a break every so often and just be friends. We are glad they understand that. When we are ready to get back into the bedsheets with them, its much more meaningful and fun. We respect them when they feel the need to become vertical friends for a while and not horizontal. So its not always a loss of interest, just a temporary change of scenery or personal events in our life... (Then again, some people do have issues that change their attitude towards lifestyles altogether.. and you have to respect their needs when they become just vanilla). Second. Old topic, but similar in nature to this string. Whatever happened to plain old honesty? Its a frustrating experiences to chat over a period of time, feel a friendship is developing, finally meet and spend a great eveing together... talk about getting together again soon only to be continually stood up or given a rash of excuses. I think everyone understands that finding a good match with another couple comes with several disappointments. Its so much easier to accept when you are told straight out that its not going to work out, rather than being lead on and on with the premise that there is something developing. Common courtesy goes along way and commands respect. Even after a relationship that may have developed for extended periods of time, why not be truthful and let the other party know when the interest is dying or gone? Or when its just a social relationship you are comfortable with.. why not be honest? There are some great friendships that can be made here that dont require sex. It happens to all of us.. think about how you want to be treated when you are on the recieving end. HUGS... Cyn, (and him)

What is is with local couples? - Anyone else seem to have the problem with couples local to where you live NOT wanting to meet? - I think people who do not reply are simlarly afraid about pictures. THey are afraid that locals will recognize them. We are in a very small town where we have been asked upon returning from a social at 3 or 4 in the morning what was wrong.... Then it goes thru the 2 closest neighbors to the south living east and west of each other. Then it jumps west several houses and then North across the street and back east again. Within one day. 7 families now know that we got in at 4am and there is speculation as to why. The neighbor across the street, as I picked up my mail one afternoon, at the bottom of my driveway, starts telling me about a couple, that I do not know from the other side of town, about them fighting and how they poor mouth and then they were eating steak...... Do I care ... why should I, but in this town everyone knows everyone elses business.... But regardless of the size of the town people are afraid that someone will find out....<shishhhhhh> <don't let anyone here> that they are swingers and God will curse them.... You know what they say about small towns and Baptist.... They see everything, hear everything that happens and tell everyone about everything ...EXCEPT that they recognize no one in the liquor store.. or local whore house.

What is up with Utah?! - Swingers in Utah and nowhere else? - SWINGERS??? In UTAH??? REALLY??? would someone kindly introduce us to a few so we can try swinging? We have met alot of really sexy people here... but swingers? NO WAY... Isnt it against the law?

Question for women - Bi sex - I dunno, althought communication is key I to was curious about f/f sex but would never go through with the arranging of it myself. I figured if it happened then wonderful but if it was up to me then it would never happen. My husband took the bull by the horns and took me to a club where it was for swingers, of course, I went on my own free will, but he arranged the night out, and made the plans, and didnt tell me a thing till we got there. That way I didnt needta think about it. Although we had talked about it, and he knew that I was willing, but just to shy to ever make the move. I was worried also about reputation because we lived in a small area he took me out of town, which relaxed me a ton. It was fun, and I wasnt mad Iwas excited to go in and glad I didnt haveta make the decision or make the first move towards going through with our fantasy. It was a nice relief. We had a good time and it made me more relaxed for more involvement. Just discuss what she would like to do and ask her if maybe you arranged the meeting all your own so she didnt need to worry bout anything and made it for out of town would she go along with it, and then suprise her if she indicates that it would be okay.